City Council — July 31, 2025 FINAL

Alan Clendenin

9:12:10AM Good morning, Tampa City Council. I call this meeting to order. Mr. Shelby. Can we have a roll call vote, please? Or attendance.

Charlie Miranda

9:12:28AM Here.

Guido Maniscalco

9:12:29AM Here.

Lynn Hurtak

9:12:30AM Here.

Luis Viera

9:12:31AM Here.

Bill Carlson

9:12:32AM Here.

Alan Clendenin

9:12:33AM Here.

The clerk

9:12:35AM We have a physical quorum.

Alan Clendenin

9:12:38AM Mr. Shelby.

Martin Shelby

9:12:41AM Yes, Mr. Chairman, good morning. Martin Shelby, City Council attorney. At this time, I would like to read the rules of decorum for today's meeting. And this applies to public comment, both at the initial general public comment on the agenda or during the public hearings today. Members of the public are allowed a reasonable opportunity at the beginning of today's meeting to address any item on the agenda before the City Council takes official action on an item. A three-minute time limit applies to all speakers providing public comment. Now, if you are here to speak on general public comment, the time to do that is at the beginning of the meeting, and if you wish to speak, please fill out a speaker card and place it in the box that's outside the chambers. One card per speaker. And cards will be accepted until the start of general public comment. Each person submitting a card will be recognized by name to approach and speak. A three-minute time limit applies. Please print legibly because names that cannot be read will not be called. If you are here to speak at a public hearing, which is designated as a public hearing on the agenda, you will have that time to speak when that item is called up during the public hearing. And to speak at a public hearing, please use the sign-in sheet that's on the podium outside instead. If you would need assistance, please see City staff. Speakers and members of the public are also reminded that they are to refrain from disruptive behavior, including making vulgar or threatening remarks or making or causing disruptive noises or sounds or displaying signs or graphics. The Chair Will rule out of order any person who speaks without being recognized or attempts to address the City Council from outside the speaker area at the podium. Persons failing to comply with the council rules may also be ruled out of order by the chair and at the discretion of the chair may be removed from the chambers for the remainder of today's meeting. Finally, a reminder that public comment is taken for items on the consent agenda and for items under staff reports. No comments are allowed during staff reports. The time to speak about those items is going to be during general public comment. City Council should refrain from engaging a speaker under public comment and the members of the public should be aware that City Council does not take your questions or have a dialogue during general public comment. This is your opportunity to express your position. Thank you.

Alan Clendenin

9:15:17AM Thank you, Mr. Shelby. I would call this chamber to order and note that disruptive behavior won't be tolerated. Sir, the gentleman standing against the wall, we'll give you an opportunity if you would like to step outside, reverse your shirt and then reenter the chamber. You would be welcome to do that. You have that opportunity now. Okay. I'll take that nonaction as a no. I rule you out of order. I would like you to remove yourself from council chambers, please. Sir, please, remove yourself from council chambers. [ sounding gavel ] right now, I would like to call a five-minute recess for chambers. I would like the clerk, attorney, City Council, to please remove yourself from chambers. [Recess] [ sounding gavel ]

9:24:08AM I call this meeting of City Council back to order. Clerk, roll call, please.

Charlie Miranda

9:24:13AM Here.

Guido Maniscalco

9:24:14AM Here.

Lynn Hurtak

9:24:15AM Here.

Luis Viera

9:24:16AM Here.

Bill Carlson

9:24:18AM Here.

Alan Clendenin

9:24:18AM Here.

The clerk

9:24:20AM We have a physical quorum.

Alan Clendenin

9:24:21AM Very good. In the interest of full disclosure, I would -- have the police officer give a little report of the outcome of that. Thank you. Officer Barbosa, Tampa Police Department. At your order, the gentleman that did not want to leave chambers was asked to leave. He refused. He was not arrested. He was handcuffed. He was escorted out of chambers. Escorted down stairs to the first floor. Escorted out the exit and was advised that he was ruled out of order and was not welcome in council chambers today.

9:24:55AM Thank you, sir. Appreciate your assistance. Thank you all for your patience again. We are going to pick back up -- we'll start with the invocation. Luis Viera, I believe you have the invocation this month.

Luis Viera

9:25:11AM I will, Mr. Chairman. I would like to welcome our friend, Steve Michelini, the man in the red tie, who will provide today's invocation and recognize our dear colleague, mary Bryan. Today is mary's last meeting in Tampa City Council after 63 years of service to the City of Tampa. [ applause ] tomorrow will be mary's last day. We wish mary continued health and success and happiness in her forthcoming retirement. If you all would please stand for this invocation. There will be some awards and presentation afterwards. Remain standing for the pledge.

Steve Michelini

9:25:50AM Good morning. No greater love can anyone have than to be or be called a friend. What greater gift to your fellow man than to be called a humanitarian. What greater gift can you give to provide hope and assistance when you thought there was none. What greater love can you have than dedicating your life to helping others? What greater love can you have than to provide 63 years, all of your adult life, for you and your community and the betterment of Tampa? All these characteristics and more are godly ways, caring, sympathetic, energetic, determined and one of the most effective problem-solvers ever. It is a god-given gift that when individuals like this move among us, they are blessed. Giving more, taking less than what you were given every time, every day under happy and also challenging conditions. Day in and day out, week in and week out, year in and year out for 63 years. Character cannot be taught. It's innate. Natured and honed through trial and travesty. By life, its challenges, successes, failures indeed, you learn more from failure than you do from success. We all share both, and we all make a difference. Mary has made a difference in thousands of lives. Do more for your community than it asks of you. Give more, take less. Look to the future and make it better than the past. Don't be afraid of failure. Success is built upon it. Be grateful for what you have, so many others have less. Never forget that you can and do make a difference. Maintaining faith and courage, they are fundamental elements that will sustain you. Look for the best in others and you will find it in yourself. Strive for excellence and still hope. Empower the right, vanquish the wrong. Love, care, nurture your family as it is a foundation of your generation and for all future generations. Give thanks to god for every day for what you have. Pray frequently. Live honestly. Help every stranger, face every challenge, live well, find solutions to issues and events. Cast of thousands applaud you. May the good lord protect you and the first responders, elected officials and all those gathered here today. Godspeed mary as we close one chapter and open another. We present this to you with love, nothing but love, amen.

Alan Clendenin

9:28:40AM Ms. Bryan, would you go to the podium and lead us in the pledge of allegiance, please? You got to get in front of the podium. There you go. [Pledge of allegiance]

Steve Michelini

9:29:08AM Mary, we have a little something else for you. The united states capitol for you in your honor. We have a certificate here stating that the flag was flown in recognition for the 63 years of honorable service to the Tampa community by mary Bryan. [ applause ]

9:29:37AM One final note. There's been a permanent record created in the congressional record in recognition of mary. I know she is familiar with the federal register and the congressional record because we used to look at it every day for grants for the city. But there is a permanent record that is established now in the congressional record in her name. [ applause ] hundred years. He was really good at his job. He really brought in a lot of money. You might put him to work again since our budget needs help. Thank you. [ applause ]

Alan Clendenin

9:30:27AM Thank you, Ms. Bryan. I didn't say anything, but I only served with you a couple of years and it has been a pleasure. You've been a wonderful friend and a great confidant and person to come to, a fount of information and you will be missed terribly. I will be jealous if you are sitting in Spain. Thank you. Council, we would like -- Mr. Carlson.

Bill Carlson

9:30:51AM We're having an event tomorrow for mary. So we'll all say more then. But I want to acknowledge also, we had a police officer who was shot yesterday. We had a police officer who was shot yesterday. I think we should all think about the officer and pray for the officer's family. Also the pba and I think most of us have reposted like a go fund me link for the family as well.

Alan Clendenin

9:31:18AM If you want additional information, please contact anyone on City Council. Give you the link. I did donate yesterday as well. I would like to hear a motion to adopt the minutes from the regular session held on June 17, 2025, and the evening session held on July 24, 2025. I heard a motion from Councilman Viera and second from Councilman Viera. A second from Councilman Miranda. All those in favor say aye. Opposed? Ayes have it. Thank you very much. We need to do a little agenda review. We do have an addendum. We received a motion from Councilman Hurtak pulling a couple of items.

Lynn Hurtak

9:32:01AM Yes, I want to pull items 32 and 51 for discussion. Staff is aware.

Alan Clendenin

9:32:09AM We have a motion from Councilwoman Hurtak to pull items 32 and 51 for discussion. Second from Councilman Maniscalco. All those in favor say aye. Opposed? The ayes have it. Any other changes to the agenda? Let's move on to staff reports for written staff reports. Item 68 was a misnotice and will not be heard. However, I need a motion to receive and file documents associated with it.

Lynn Hurtak

9:32:35AM We actually can't do that until 10:30.

Alan Clendenin

9:32:37AM Can we receive and file the documents now? It was misnoticed. We have a motion from Councilman Viera, second from Councilman Maniscalco to receive and file. All those in favor, aye. Opposed? The ayes have it. 69 is administrative update. We do have administrative update from Susan Johnson Velez. It's about senate bill 180. Mr. Bennett, anything else included in that today? Thank you very much. Items 70 through 72 are pulled from the consent agenda because of the amount. Do we need a report on those items? Councilwoman Hurtak.

Lynn Hurtak

9:33:19AM We've had a couple members of the public curious about what last year's contract funded. I'm going to ask that we get a report of those items. That's it.

Bill Carlson

9:33:35AM When it comes up, I would like to ask staff on the record to make sure that the contract does not include a red light on Franklin Street.

Alan Clendenin

9:33:43AM That is 70 through 72.

Bill Carlson

9:33:46AM 71 is a contract for Channel District. In the past, they tried to slide in red lights --

Alan Clendenin

9:33:51AM We'll have staff for 70 through 72. 70, I believe staff will be here to report on that. 71 and 72, 73, Brad Baird will be here to present. Fyi, 73, there was some misinformation in the agenda. 73 is no action. It will come back before this council at a future date. It will be information only. 74, Councilwoman Hurtak, Christine Glover will be here to report on that.

Lynn Hurtak

9:34:20AM Actually I have stuff I've been working on in the background for that, that we may or may not -- that we'll talk about during 74 about stormwater overall.

Alan Clendenin

9:34:31AM Very good. We will expect Christine Glover to be here in council chambers.

Lynn Hurtak

9:34:36AM I don't know that we need Christine Glover. It's up to chief of staff.

Alan Clendenin

9:34:45AM She's ready and willing and if we don't need it, we don't need it. We have 75, Councilman Viera. Ocea Wynn will be here for a verbal report on that. 76, Councilman Carlson, Ocea Wynn, verbal report on that. Councilwoman Hurtak, 77, I believe either Brandon or Adam for a verbal report on that one. Councilman Viera, question for you, for 78, your motion may end up being moot. If we pass the resolution on unspent money in 2024 in the consent agenda, I think that makes 78 moot.

Luis Viera

9:35:22AM I would still like to, if I may, Mr. Chairman, have a report on when that money is going to be available. A lot of people are talking about this because of all the exclusion inadvertently that happened with the first set of funds. Just a quick report on when it's going to be available. That was really my intent. It's going to move forward but in terms of when it's going to be available and the process.

Lynn Hurtak

9:35:50AM The actual thing is asking for the timeline. It's not the actual approving of the money.

Alan Clendenin

9:35:56AM We will ask staff to be available for item 78. Item 79 and 81 is a receive and file. Can we get a motion to receive and file?

Bill Carlson

9:36:07AM Quick comment about 81. We months ago asked, suggested to the administration that we set up a joint committee that would advise on putting together semi quincentennial celebration for the united states. The administration wrote a memo back saying essentially bud out. The administration is going to do it. We don't need the City Council or the public to be involved. It's disappointing, but that's what it is. So good luck to them. Thank you.

Alan Clendenin

9:36:36AM Can I get a motion to receive and file? Motion from Councilman Maniscalco. A second from Councilwoman Hurtak. All those in favor say aye. Opposed? I need a motion to continue 82 to August 7, 2025. We have a motion from Councilman Maniscalco. Second from Councilman Miranda. All those in favor say aye. Opposed? Councilwoman Hurtak.

Lynn Hurtak

9:36:58AM The only reason, we are working behind the scenes on this one. It's just not ready yet.

Alan Clendenin

9:37:05AM Very good. I think we are ready to move on -- 80.

Lynn Hurtak

9:37:14AM We approved 79 and 81, but not 80. Oh, through 81. Sorry, I missed that.

Alan Clendenin

9:37:23AM Thank you. No worries. We need a motion to adopt the agenda. We have a motion from Councilman Maniscalco. Second from Councilman Miranda. All those in favor say aye. Opposed? Ayes have it. We are ready to move on to public comment. I believe we have some online speakers. I don't have a list of those this morning. Lucas and Michael. Lucas, can you hear us? Start with your name, please.

The clerk

9:38:08AM Lucas koski, if you can unmute yourself. Lucas koski.

Alan Clendenin

9:38:17AM Good morning, Lucas. My name is Lucas koski. I'm the vice president at artspace projects. I'm here to express support for the arts affordable housing project. This project would provide much-needed affordable live/work space for Tampa. Artists and creative sector, many of whom across the nation are struggling to stay in the communities they help enricher. Art space has a proven track record across the country creating developments to support local culture, boost neighborhood economies and boost lasting -- we know that the arts and creative sector are vital to Tampa's identity and economy. Without affordable housing and work spaces, Tampa risks losing the very people that bring the city to life. We urge you support the project. Essential predevelopment funding and public backing. It's more than just housing. It is investment in our city's creative. Artspace would love to thank you for your time and commitment to the Tampa community. I also just want to say that my colleague, pablo lituma had a little bit of a family emergency. He's listed in public comments, but is not able to join this morning. I want to echo that he also thanks council members for their attention to this and is really excited to begin the hard and earnest work of providing affordable housing. Thank you.

9:39:43AM Thank you, sir. Enjoy your day. Michael randolph. I'm here today to talk about the forgotten 800 bodies that were -- good morning again, City Council. I come here today not as an advocate, but as a formal resident of Robles park. Support of funding for memorial park initiative is profoundly personal. Live eight doors away from where the bodies were discovered. Until we found out they were buried there. In the spirit of the Racial Reconciliation Committee, I respectfully and passionately urge you to approve -- land swap and other support for this sacred initiative. This is more than a memorial. It is, in fact, a moral obligation. You have the power to right a historic wrong and restore justice to over 850 forgotten souls. We believe support for the zion cemetery, zion geological research center, the memorial design-build and community programming grant offer not only an historic, but an emotional -- and also a measurable and social impact. The geological research center is designed not only as cultural and historical anchor, but also as a fine income model generating revenue through educational programs, geological services, rental space and other activities. With the memorial design-build, this build would serve as a powerful public space for reflection, education, and offering an artistic historical interpretation and economical potential. Let us honor the past with action and shape a future that reflects dignity, truth, and reconciliation. Thank you.

9:42:13AM Thank you, Michael. Enjoy the rest of your day. We'll move on -- that was the last two, correct? Nobody came back on? We'll move on to public comment. Our first speaker is Dr. Alex Harris, followed by connie burton. Doctor or director. I can't tell. Thank you, council for all that you do for the community. I'm here just to express our gratitude --

9:42:41AM Start with your name, please. Alex Harris. Thank you. Alex Harris. Thank you so much for all that you do. I'm here to express gratitude for the support of art space as the founder for the arts conservatory for teens, we have 5 of 19 sites that focuses on youth development in the arts and preparing for careers. For this kind of support, certainly sends a strong signal to our young folks that our community does support the arts professionals and understanding what it contributes to the overall economy and our culture. So thank you so much, and we hope that we continue to receive each of your support as we continue to build and expand what we're doing for our professionals as well as our up and coming professionals throughout our community. Once again, thank you so much.

9:43:38AM Absolutely. Connie burton. The next speaker will be Dr. Carolyn collins. Connie burton. I really want to draw attention to things that I feel you should be paying attention to. In number 1 agenda item, the reappointment, and I know you don't do this the recommendation of the mayor, people for years coming back to be reappointed to a division that -- and I'm talking particularly about the Housing Authority, that do not have to come to you to tell you what is their vision, what is their plan, how are they taking care of the issues of the poor. How are they dealing with the issue of the backlog of the waiting list of people that need housing. How many people did they move toward home ownership? It's disturbing to even come down Nebraska Avenue this morning to see how the Housing Authority is in the business of hotel building. When we got a tremendous amount of issues in our community that is not addressing the needs of housing of the poor. Some of these quick fixes, you know, tent cities, it's amazing to me. I just wish you would in your reappointment of these people to the board, ask their stakeholders to come and speak to you about the things that they are doing on behalf of the things that I just mentioned. And, of course, item number 75, that when you're talking about what's going to happen for young people with disability, we had a summer program that they could not even get off the ground good. It was moved to the Recreation Department, and we know that that director was looking and seeking another job. How did that -- in that group of young people fare? We don't want to wait until it is next summer, still going over the same issues again. Why can't we get to 72? Why can't we get to 144? Why can't be that a successful program? We know for a fact that many of the young people in the program didn't even live in the city, within the city district. That's how desperate of need, young people need for real intention and opportunity. Thank you.

9:46:05AM Thank you, connie. Dr. Carolyn collins. The next speaker will be Chris. Dr. Carolyn collins, chair for the historic Jackson House Foundation INC. I just wanted to come up today briefly to say, first of all, this is my first time here since that time, but I want to give memory to the late Councilwoman Gwendolyn Henderson. And I want to thank all of the council for support on a consistent basis that each of you have given us and very special support that we have received. But on your agenda today, item number 49, we want to give thanks to the mayor and the City Administration because something that we worked on well over three years, trying to get a document signed that we felt we should be in the beginning, has reached a point where meeting with all concerns all over the city and the county, the mayor and her administrative team went back to one of its former amendments with the accardis. We want to say now that based on what's in that amendment, we are in total support because we don't have to sign anything. What we did the last time in June of this year, it was not responded to for whatever reason, and we are happy. Thanks. But the mayor has gotten together with her administrative team. They have a document that will give us a 10 feet easement on each side of the house. Just as a brief update, we already completed our RFQ. We were moving on without it as we indicated to you before. After the RFQ, we completed the RFP. More than 30 days, we extended it, we got two more bidders afterwards. They were not able to come in but have agreed that they'll work with us on a consultant basis. We have completed our interviews. They are done. I can tell you that. All of the verbal interviews and we will be doing a walk site interview with the three finalists. The state is involved. They are in with us. Other than whatever we tweak a little bit with what's going on with the Tampa Bay History Center, while they wait on their new director to come in, we are well on the way, because we felt at this hurricane season, the Jackson house spoke to us and told us we can't wait anymore. We need your help. For those of you who have helped to us the city, to the county and everyone, we are more than grateful. And we want to tell you that whatever the city is doing with the mayor, in amendment 4, of the fourth amendment that goes back a few years, we are supportive as long as the Jackson house get ten feet easement on each side of the house so that what we are already in the process of doing, we will not have to do it without the easement. So thank you. Appreciate all you've done and look forward to more information from us forthcoming.

9:49:21AM Thank you, Doctor. Chris vela. Followed by Stephanie poynor. My name is Chris vela. I live 33605 Ybor City. I'm here to talk about kiley gardens. There is a status coming up. I've been involved in kiley gardens all the way back 37 years ago. I was one of the first kids that stepped in that park, observed the tree alley, the crape myrtles, the water flowing, the wind, the nice breeze. It inspired me to get into a career of design and urban design. I'm sure it inspired a lot of children during that time to get in design or a field that deals with just making things look better and feel better. Now, fast-forwarding over to this point today, in 2003, I formed a not-for-profit. A bunch of architects together, urban land designers and so on. We tried to lobby pam iorio, City staff then to restore kiley gardens. We were successful to a certain point. In 2009, tiger grant through the Obama administration, we got most of the park restored. Overseen by professionals. A lot of reports saying that it can support the crape myrtle trees or a substitute for it. Here we are today. But I want to talk about dan kiley and why he is important. First of all, President Bill clinton awarded the presidential medal of arts for him. His work is found in the national gallery in d.c., art institute of chicago, Jefferson memorial in st. Louis, the list goes on. It is an important asset to have on the riverwalk. As you know, it is an arts walk. It is part of the Tampa Museum of Art. It always has been. A lot of people go there to do performances, whether it's music, small yoga practices or whatnot. It is a sense of community and always been a cornerstone of that. If you looked at the fountains when they are in operation, they actually resemble the operation that occurred across the ut with the design fountains you see in the roundabout. There were a lot of cues where dan kiley was trying to make relationship with that, as well as the mcnb tower. Where does that leave us da he? Right now, as I said, the park got restored. I think parking garages are always going to leak. You're always going to have bad seals. I don't think there is a dire sense -- and I hope there isn't. I'm just asking you to consider using this time, when the report is spoken, to search and see if you can do any leverage to get kiley garden on a local landmark designation. I was here over 20 years ago to ask that. I'm here today. I think now we're in a good position where we can put some funding, state funding, national funding, to restore kiley gardens back to where it was before, at least as much as possible. Please take into consideration this gem we have that inspired me and a lot of people. Thank you for your time.

9:52:31AM Thank you. Stephanie poynor, followed by alison hewitt. This is from the November -- February 15 --

9:52:52AM What is your name? This is from agenda, February 15, 2024. I think that there was actually another follow-on to this. I couldn't find it. My hard drive crashed this weekend. Two weeks ago, we found out that $2.5 million had been snatched out from our paving fund. And here we go. Today, item number 32 is talking about we are -- the citizens of Tampa are paying for people to use their credit cards to pay their water bill. I've slept once or twice since then, but I'm almost positive -- I know I'm positive, that we voted that those fees be incurred by the person who uses their credit card. Poor people don't pay their water bill with a credit card. They pay it in person, in cash. They pay it with a check if they need to. But why are we subsidizing the use of credit cards to pay your bills? When I walk into a restaurant or do business with a vendor, I ask them, does it cost more if I use my credit card? If they say yes, I make an alternative payment. Either pay in cash or use my debit card or write a check because I feel like I don't want to pay that. I'm trying to figure out why, when we had this, and this says unanimously you guys decided to not continue the practice of paying for people to use their credit cards with the City of Tampa. What happened? This is two City Council meetings in a ROW where the shell game has been played. City Council said stop doing this, and yet here we are, maybe a year later or so, give or take, and we're still doing the same thing. Number 78, I want to talk about that for just a second. We talk about slow roll. Everything in the City of Tampa is like the little engine that could. Everything moves slowly in the City of Tampa, unless somebody next door wants it, because then it becomes a japanese bullet train. We do have folks suffering. I know a couple of folks personally who applied for the funds and have been told they would receive the funds, but nothing has been done with it. Where is the money? If you guys set aside the money and it was a big show, dog and pony show about giving away the money, when are people going to actually start seeing the checks to help them rebuild their homes? You know, mayor buckhorn didn't want to raise any fees, and it looks like Jane Castor is doing the same thing.

9:55:52AM Alison hewitt followed by Ron weaver. Question, please, before, you said there was a sheet for the public hearing. My comments are about 63 through 65. But there was no sheet outside. That's why I used a card. Is it appropriate for me to speak now or --

9:56:17AM Those are not public hearings. This is your opportunity. They are being set for public hearings.

Martin Shelby

9:56:25AM Those are resolutions setting public hearings coming in the future. If you wish to speak to them, you can. Apologies, if I can have the time. I wanted the clarity.

Alan Clendenin

9:56:37AM We'll reset the time starting now. Alison hewitt, East Tampa resident and business owner. Every time CRP comes up, I will speak before you because my challenge is that our CRPs are not including the reports and what has come the years before. How do we know what has worked? How do we know how we're spending the money? How do we know what is successful. I also want to say, please pay attention. What is being done is the CRPs are becoming staff recommendations because, again, thrown out the original CRPs and they are starting again. When they come to the public hearings, they are providing, this is what we're seeing. Give us your opinion, but not a real CRP. My biggest fear, one example for East Tampa CRP, it was said in there that through public hearings that in the slum and blight, before you do anything about the property, work with the property owner. They have not done that. They are now doing that now. I want to make sure that stays in there because we don't want gentrification. We want to work with the property owners. As these CRPs are coming before you, they are not providing you any data on whether to remove slum and blight, whether it advance the measurable outcomes, nothing. Without any data or accountability or community informed evaluation, these new updates to the CRP are just somebody writing a plan that doesn't have community input. How are we going to be good stewards of taxpayer dollars if we cannot continue to say that, okay, for the last 20 years in East Tampa, this has worked, this has not worked, this is the direction to go. If we have a whole new direction, how do we know what is working? We have limited time. They are all sunsetting. We need to be more intentional in making sure we are more transparent about we are continuing on with this part of the CRP because it has worked. We are changing it because it has not worked. That is not provided to you. That has not been provided to the community. And you have these new plans. I ask you, before you start approving the CRPs that someone reports to you on whether or not what they have done for years before, are they actually being effective. I have these comments also in writing.

9:59:04AM Thank you. Ron weaver followed by Michelle smith. Ron weaver, 4403 West Dale Avenue. I rise on the occasion of items 53 and 54 which relate to the art space. Desperately needed affordable housing for our artists. Tampa artist named janet eckleman was in bali and lost all of her paint. She resorted instead to all the fabrics which made her a celebrated experiential artist in the world including the major architecture at port of Portugal and gates foundation entry, sculpture. Tampa artists receive the helping hand from the folks who reached out to her. We must help our starving artists, must provide them affordable housing in items 53 and 54. Ray Charles wrote his first song in Tampa. Tampa red came to Tampa because that is the only place could find housing in all of Florida when he lost his parents. We must reach out a helping hand to our artists. In Alabama, corporal lee left Alabama in 1949 and went to New York and worked at twa as reservation clerk. Some of her friends noticed she had this writing ability but she was full-time reservation in New York city. They gave her one-year salary like her twa reservation so she could write to kill a mockingbird. The most telling piece of justice, inequality and sensitivity of young people in the world because somebody reached out a helping hand to artists. Please reach out a helping hand to the artists of Tampa. 1509 creatives who have been surveyed in Tampa. 71% of them are making 80% or less of the AMI. So in providing this housing to those who desperately need it the most. Of the 1509 creative artists surveyed, 36% haven't made money from selling their art. 71% of them made less than 25% of their income from selling their art. They desperately need not to be working two jobs so they'll never get to the discovery of their art. My daughter sang from a distance, the hope of hopes, the love of loves, the bette midler song when she first sang at the academy of holy names. And then at our church as a talent contest. Suddenly she discovered herself and her gift. Please let these Tampa young people, discover their art and discover themselves by providing affordable housing so they don't have to work two jobs and never discover their art or themselves. Thank you.

10:01:40AM Michelle smith.

10:01:50AM My next leave, I'm going to speak half as well as Ron does. Good morning. I'm Michelle smith. I'm the executive director of Tampa Arts Alliance. I'm here to express our appreciation for the numerous ways that you all support the arts in Tampa. You are champions for grassroots organizations, dance companies, community theater, anchor art institutions, innovation through the arts, public spaces and public art and greenspaces and also a beautiful, beautiful bookstore. Tampa is very lucky to have a council body and an administration that gets it. A city that is saturated with arts and culture is a key indicator of the economic strength, vitality, stability, and tolerance. One foundation of a thriving arts ecosystem is the ability for cultural workers to live in the city that they serve. Something that has been increasingly difficult in recent years. Four months after the creation of the Tampa Arts Alliance, we were asked by a group of eager arts leaders to take on the responsibility of carrying forward their established need for affordable housing, to turn a great idea into reality. We have since secured a generous commitment of land donations from the public and the county, have been used to conceptualize the space. We greatly appreciate your support which closes the funding gap of what's necessary to move the project forward with art space projects in Ybor City. This building will affordably house at least 60 artists across multiple industries, providing them with both a home and a workplace to hone their craft in the company of a diverse collective of creatives. This unique affordable housing solution reverberates a positive impact beyond just district 5. Into all corners of the city, helping to preserve what makes Tampa special, and magnetize more opportunities for the entire region. Thank you for your trust in the Tampa Arts Alliance and art space projects and to the numerous artists who have envisioned this wonderful idea. Thank you.

10:04:12AM Speaking of art space, next speaker is neil gobioff. After that, will be Robin Lockett. Board member of the Tampa Arts Alliance. I want to say thank you and expressed gratitude for your continued support of the art space project. Five years ago, a group of individuals got together around this idea of getting affordable housing built for creatives here in Tampa. They worked with -- invited art space projects here to Tampa, that led to a feasibility study followed by the arts market survey that Ron weaver so eloquently referenced. And demonstrated a definite need for that type of a building here. As Michelle said, we then were able to find a commitment of land from Darryl shaw. I just want to express our gratitude for helping us get to the next step. A momentous milestone for us. I look forward to the building being built. You guys helping keep the artists in ybor. Thank you very much.

10:05:18AM Thank you so much for all the work you do. Robin Lockett. You'll pass? So next speaker is by shop Michelle b. Patty, followed by Pastor Williams. Bishop Michelle b. Patty. I would like to make an observation. You usually have it typed out as people speak. It was kind of hard to understand and hear the speakers that was on the phone this morning.

10:05:48AM Can you not see the type up there now?

10:05:54AM On ours we can. CCTV, the camera facing the audience -- can you all see it back there?

10:06:03AM It is the one tv in front of the podium. Speak about Ms. Mary. Ms. Mary, who is a wonderful woman, and I know she's watching, and for her to have done 63 years, and I think I've been a part of quite a few of those years, but she's been outstanding employee, someone that was very helpful. I don't know what you're going to do without her, Charlie, but she is one of those people that always made you feel welcome. If you needed information, she didn't hesitate to give it to you. For 63 years, that's to be commended. I'm one of these people who believe in giving them the flowers while they can live and smell them. Not when they are dead and gone and say all these accolades. I've never seen her with a frown, mean word. Always a smile. To come here every day, that is a challenge and do the work she's done. I want to commend her and tell her congratulations on her well-deserved retirement. I know her husband is going to be glad she's home. I know he's been counting down the days to her retirement. So we can -- I just want to wish them well and let her know that I as a citizen of Hillsborough county has appreciated her long service to -- her loyal service to this city. Thank you very much.

10:07:33AM Thank you, bishop. Pastor Williams, you are next. Followed by reverend jacquelyn coffee leeks.

10:07:49AM Good morning, pastor. My name is Pastor Williams, located 1112 East Scott Street, paradise missionary baptist church. I'm going to applaud what you did to the young man pulling him out of here. You got to understand, we have people of color got to understand, they do this -- all the time. You have to recognize the fact that we got god on our side. Deliver me, o lord, from the evil. Preserve me from the vile of men, mischief in their hearts. Continue as they gather for war. They have sharpened their tongue like a serpent. Poison is on their lips. Keep me, o lord, from the hands of the wicked. Preserve me from the violent men who have purchased to overthrow my -- the proud -- I say unto the lord my god, hear the voice of my supplication. God, grant, o lord, further not the wicked. As for the head of those that come past me about, let burning coal fall upon them. Let them be cast into the fire, into the deep pit that they rise up not again. Let not the evil be established in the earth. Evil shall hunt not the violent men but overthrow him. I know that the lord will maintain the call of the rising poor. Give thanks to unto the lord and righteousness. The reason I'm reading this here, I thank god for all of you all. But we got to understand, we've been mistreated many, many years, and when you do it to us in public, we got to come back and let you know where we stand.

10:10:54AM Thank you, pastor. We appreciate your time this morning. Thank you so much. Reverend Jacqueline coffie-leeks followed by reva iman. My name is Jacqueline coffie-leeks. I am a fourth generation resident of Sulphur Springs. Daughter of the late Ronald coffie senior and Marilyn streeter. I currently serve as outreach pastor at 34th street of god under Bishop Thomas Scott in East Tampa and work as executive director of the Sulphur Springs neighborhood of promise in Sulphur Springs. During the afternoon segment of July 17 City Council meeting, after most attendees had departed and agenda nearly completed, Ms. Feeley provided a brief update of the progress and future direction of the land development code. The mention of Florida Avenue and bird prompted a 15-minute heartfelt discussion during which there was a unanimous consensus that more can be done for Sulphur Springs. As I watched with tears running down my face as each of you commented on the absence of our elected official and several thoughts occurred to me. The first is I need to go and inform them. The second was language carries significant influence. Terms such as forgotten, poorest, and no civic movement highlighted the importance of community representation here at the meeting. We agree that it is essential for residents to engage in community efforts and participate in the structured process established by the city, including working with neighborhood enforcement initiative and enhancement initiatives which we work closely with Mr. Frank crumb, all of the City departments and having city officials and city on our board. Ms. Holmes Served on the board since the inception. We know it is important to build capacity within our community. My definition of civic engagement isn't just showing up at every meeting to yell at you all during public comment. However, I watch every meeting and I'm working during the meetings to build sustainability, to build things among our residents and partners to work hand in hand with City departments, our parks and rec, law enforcement, and first responders to bridge the gap. We have the data to show it works. Yes, there is always more to do. I'm so grateful that you all are committed to doing more. We want to do it together. Time, talent, and treasure. We maintain that each district should have an elected official that is committed to staying informed about all communities within their district, to communicate relevant updates and challenges effectively back to the council. January 2016, this City Council, not you all, but some of you all were there, signed a resolution in your hands that supported our Florida designation as a promise neighborhood. We are a community full of civic engaged residents with promise. Today is just a springboard for the conversation that we need to have and we would love to have it with you. Thank you for this opportunity to share.

10:14:08AM Thank you for coming out this morning. Good morning. Reva iman -- did I butcher your last name. I'm here about zion. If you were listening, Michael randolph was speaking earlier of zion, the forgotten. Past, present, and future. Past, the forgotten. I've been here many times to speak on zion. That was the past, the forgotten. The present, we here now and been here presently seeking help from the city. It wasn't you-all's fault that's up here now. But it's you all who can make a difference now of zion. History. History, history. You can be part of history today by making what was wrong right today. Future, our future is what we're trying to build for the community, not just for the African American community, for anyone, what we are trying to do. I'm seeking because you have a budget coming up through the city. You have done a great deal and still working on some things right now. But I'm asking that you do a little bit more. It's going to take $9 million to complete the project that we're trying to do. This project is just not for the american community. It's for the city as a whole. A center. Education. USF, we're seeking your help with that $9 million. That is the future that we're asking that you can be part of and your legacy to help correct what that past council did, what was wrong when they built on top of the forgotten individuals buried there now. I ask that you dig deep in your hearts, find what you can find to help us do this because it's going to take all of us to make it happen and become part of history of making what was wrong right. And we will forever thank you.

10:16:31AM Thank you for coming out this morning. Marty green followed by fred hearns. Good morning. My name is marty with the Mobility department, City of Tampa.

10:17:04AM For the record, you have to state your full name, please. This is the article out of the union handbook, training purposes. Tampa agreed to continue career development of program including employees' training program for the purposes of qualifying city employees for upward mobility within the City of Tampa. So saying that to say this. I sent out an e-mail to management about guys they use from the temp service. They are using the same social security number. They are not legal. They are not checking their credentials. I also wrote an e-mail basically stating to them, telling them how an outside source basically saying it is a language barrier between the guys they will get from the temp service. I also put that it will be a multimillion dollar lawsuit because the temps that they got, they don't have MOT. They are not MOT certified. To stop me from putting it out because they know it was public service, they say if I write another e-mail, I will be disciplinary. To do that, I still kept walking and I got disciplinary. I gave them the d.o.t. Rules and regulations of maintenance of traffic. You have to be MOT certified to touch any MOT. The reason why, if someone put the wrong MOT out and someone get killed, guess who is liable, Tampa. Therefore, the City Council, that's more money that we got to put back in the budget because they failed to do their job. So when I brought it back up to them again, they told me that I was crazy. I was forced to go see Dr. Woods. They forced me to go see a psychiatrist. So everything that they felt was wrong with me and I explained to one of my supervisors what problems I have, he broke the HIPAA law and went straight to the other supervisor, Brian rogers and they forced me to see a psychologist. Why do I have to go? They said if I don't go, I lose my job. So I was forced to go. Recently, I kept complaining about the MOT. This is from the guy that put MOT out. In a quick answer, so in a quick answer, yes, everyone that's working the roles with maintenance of traffic must be trained. Those guys that the City of Tampa hired they are not trained. Therefore, it's going to be another lawsuit against the City of Tampa with all the ones we have going on with the sexual harassment and everything else and the whistle-blowers. There will be another lawsuit if the City Council doesn't get hold of the Mobility department, along with the --

10:20:02AM Thank you. Fred hearns followed by Albert cook. And good morning, council. Fred hearns, 3422 Machado Street in Historic Belmont Heights in the heart of district five in the City of Tampa. I asked these two young ladies to come and stand with me. You just heard from reva iman, who is the vice president of the zion cemetery preservation and maintenance society, of which I'm President. Robin Lockett, who is a member of our board, and both these young ladies are former residents of the area that we now know as zion cemetery. You may recall, it's been six years since this issue became public knowledge. Because for so many years, the people who knew that there was a cemetery on this property where the Robles park public housing was built in the 1950s, the people who knew it was a cemetery were always afraid to speak up because of retaliation. There was no black representation on City Council until perry Harvey took a seat there in 1983. By then, that cemetery was like a 60-year memory. There are still people living who remember playing when they were children in the area where there were graves. But the ask today is financial. And this is going to come before you again at some point, as well as we understand the administration, state administration has to deal with this also. As was just mentioned, the price tag is 8 or $9 million to acquire all of the property, place it under the umbrella of our nonprofit, zion cemetery preservation and maintenance society. Develop a memorial park that would be open to the public to visitors, to residents, to people coming from all over to see what special thing has been done for these black people who were buried, forgotten, built on top of, et cetera, et cetera. Ask yourself how you would feel if you knew your mother was buried there. And there was business being conducted on top of those graves. People living on top of those graves, and nothing was done about it. We have an opportunity today to help to right that wrong. In the early meetings that we had, we had someone from city attorney's office who would attend every meeting. We also had someone from historic preservation with the city. We haven't seen them in a while. We know that the administration is working on this issue, but I'm asking that you request a report from the City Administration to update you on what's happening. Gwen Henderson was working with us, and we know, unfortunately, after we lost her, there were many projects that she was working on. This was one of them. We need funding, half a million dollars for zion cemetery in this budget, and we're going to be coming back again. Thank you.

10:23:15AM Thank you, Mr. Hearns. Albert cook, followed by Valerie bullock. On the top of the wolf, you can zoom it so we get the whole screen.

10:23:37AM It's just a little wheel. It's low-tech. Good morning, City Council. My name is Albert cook. Today I have the honor of addressing you as a member of the leadership team to commemorate the 100th anniversary of bookie t. Washington elementary school. The school is named in honor of booker t. Washington. He was born into slavery in Virginia in 1856 and liberated by u.s. troops during the Civil War. In 1881, he became the first president of the historic tuskegee institute. In 1901, he published "up from slavery," a brilliant autobiography detailing his rise from enslavement to a become a prominent figure in american history. Booker t. Washington school opened its doors in September of 1925, originally serving both junior and senior high school students. It was a segregated institution primarily attended by the grandchildren of formerly enslaved africans. But also welcomed afro cubans in 1925 regardless of nationality, dark skinned students attended segregated negro schools. In 1934, following the establishment of middleton high school, booker t. Washington continued as a junior high school. It retained this role until the 1970s when Tampa schools were desegregated and later focused solely on elementary education. Esteemed educator blanche armwood, the first superintendent of negro schools, played a significant role in the education of students at booker t. Washington. Armwood high school in seffner honors her name. Howard w. Blake, for whom Blake High School is named, served as principal from 1934 until his death in 1954. Fred hearns, a dedicated community leader and black history curator at the Tampa history center is also an alumnus. So we are excited to announce a carnival featuring food trucks, fun games, and family friendly entertainment on August 6 from 2 to 4 p.m. the centennial celebration would take place on September 26 from 6 to 8 p.m. with doors opening at 5. Guests will celebrate the historic centennial, tour the school, listen to captivating stories and enjoy a fine dining experience. For questions, sponsorship opportunities, and individual seating, please reach out to the principal, monica barber, at monica.barber@hcps.net or call 813-233-3720. You can also speak to me as well. You are all invited. We would love to see you there. This is a great occasion. You imagine in 100 years and what that school has seen, the world wars, civil rights, desegregation, everything that's seen. Vietnam War. So we welcome all. Thank you.

10:26:54AM Thank you very much. Valerie bullock followed by our last speaker surgret doss. Valerie bullock. I'm coming up here to say do not approve the city budget. Send it back. It's no sense that the Police Department get 60% of the budget. That is too much money for one department. I understand they put the Fire Department in it this year so you can think they are spending less money, but they are getting the majority of the city budget. I did a little research. Most city budgets, they -- most cities spend 4% to 45%. The average is 23 to 29 percent. In 2020, the Police Department was 41% of the budget. Now here it is 2025, it's 60% of the budget. By the time 2030 come, it will be 80% of the budget. No. send it back and cut it 20%. Make it go back to 40%, because all of that money is not helping the people that need it. We don't have a lot of police programs. It stays at the top. So many people in the Police Department who is making over $200,000 a year. If everybody else have to cut back and have to use what we got to make it, they can, too. Cut this Police Department budget by 20%. I also want to talk about the Housing Authority, reappointing someone for four years. Most of the people at the Housing Authority, I think I was 18, 19 when I first moved in ponce de leon project, jerome ryans, he was over it. When they get appointed, it is lifelong appointments. Nothing they can do can stop them from losing that job. They are going to keep it no matter what. We should not have lifetime members over at the Tampa Housing Authority. They need a four-year term, mayor appoint them, come in with her. When that mayor leave, they leave also. Because Tampa Housing Authority is not helping people no more. It used to be if you want a house or somewhere to stay before you got homeless, you can go to state of Tampa Housing Authority and they had emergency funds. Have this right here where they can get you in a house. Right now, I'm not seeing that. When I call over there, they tell me they are only working with veterans or HIV patients. I hate to say it, you shouldn't have to die to get an apartment. Regular people should be able to get an apartment, too. Never mind our health issues. If I'm going to school or working at mcdonald's and making $12 an hour to rent a two-bedroom for 1600, Tampa Housing Authority should be able to step in. But we've gotten so far away from helping people with Tampa Housing Authority. And don't let me mention how many doj investigations Tampa Housing Authority have gotten. We need to clean that up. Thank you all very much.

10:30:06AM Thank you, Valerie. Surgret doss. Surgret doss. I've unfortunately been asked to be pleasant this morning. So I'll calibrate and tailor my comments accordingly. By the way, to the young man doctor, doctor is an earned title. I may be bias. Brother is one. First cousin and my daughter is one as well. You earned it so call yourself by that. And expect others to do the same thing. But some things should be intolerable in a civilized society. I'm beginning to wonder how civilized the City of Tampa may or may not be. When I have judges like paul huey, Emily ann peacock, allowing insurance companies to take advantage of elderly people and at the same time watch attorneys and these same insurance companies take advantage of veterans, it bothers me. I can go a little bit deep near that. But I wanted -- mentesnot out front today. For some reason there are people in the country who don't think black folks have any entitlement to the guarantees of the united states and/or the state constitution. I'm here to tell everybody watching, even black folks afraid of white people for some strange reason to assert your rights. White people don't have -- and especially I'm not going to use the words you know I love to use, some of you white folks, other kind of white folks, run crazy and running the country crazy. But these rights that the constitution protects everybody should know, and no one should feel afraid because they are going to do what they are going to do anyway. People who don't like us, are going to mistreat us. People -- some people turn blind eye even in certain positions. We need to stop using titles like honorable for certain judges. I also gave you something last week. I know that attorneys have obligations that when someone raises a complaint about another attorney or a judge that you all have the ability to ensure that either it's looked into or an investigation is promptly started as well as the board has. I've been real clear when I've made indications about people. They have a problem with it, tell them to sue me. But the reality is, there are things going in this city that you all should be bothered by. Black people out there who have no problem addressing black people, democrats, any other political party should feel the same way about everybody. I did remain calibrated, only because you're here. I will be pleasant and remain pleasant. What you all did as far as violating somebody's rights with the first amendment bothers me. As a person willing to die so that everybody could assert those rights. That being said, shout out to Thomas Jefferson high school. You all take care.

10:33:11AM Thank you very much. That concludes public comment. We'll move on to board and administrative appointments.

Martin Shelby

10:33:19AM Did you ask for any reconsideration of legislative matters?

Alan Clendenin

10:33:23AM Is there anybody here that would like to reconsider legislative matters?

Lynn Hurtak

10:33:31AM That's after appointments.

Alan Clendenin

10:33:32AM It's after appointments.

Martin Shelby

10:33:33AM That's my fault. Why don't we do the appointments.

Alan Clendenin

10:33:37AM It could have gone either way. We'll be right back with you. We are on board and administrative appointments. Item 1 is the resolution approving, consenting to and confirming the reappointment by the mayor of Lorena Hardwick as member of the Tampa Housing Authority for a four-year term. We have a motion from Councilman Maniscalco. Second from Councilman Carlson. All those in favor, aye. Opposed?

The clerk

10:34:11AM Motion carried with Hurtak voting no.

Bill Carlson

10:34:13AM Can I ask a quick question? I support Lorena who has been great in lots of ways. I agree with the comments from the public about term limits. Are you aware if there are term limits on these positions from a City Council point of view?

Martin Shelby

10:34:30AM With this particular position? I can't speak off the top of my head and say I know the answer. I can get you the answer.

Lynn Hurtak

10:34:37AM No, but we are that. If we didn't want someone to continue on, we are the term limit.

Bill Carlson

10:34:48AM I just think that maybe we can talk about it in new business, but we ought to impose term limits, like no more than two terms for anybody we appoint.

Alan Clendenin

10:34:57AM It was concerning me as well. Can I suggest one of the councilpersons bring that back for new business for discussion? Item number 2 is a resolution approving, consenting to and confirming the reappointment by the mayor of John Douglas Shields as a member of the Hillsborough county building board of adjustment. Motion from Maniscalco, second from Viera. All in favor? Aye. Opposed? Ayes have it unanimous. Anybody from the public that requests reconsideration of legislative matters?

Steve Michelini

10:35:31AM Good morning, council. Steve Michelini. I'm here requesting that vacating 25-10 for 3203 Cordelia Street be reconsidered. There was information that was not available during your hearing, which I think is quite dramatic. I think that it deserves reconsideration. You received an e-mail, 16 of the 19 properties that abut this property, abut this alley, have joined in this petition. I can't get to solving the other problems regarding encroachments without a vacating. We simply are kicking the can down the road. And what will happen is all these other properties are now at risk. We would respectfully request that you reconsider your action that was taken on the 17th and allow this to move forward so we can resolve these other issues. As far as I can tell, there are 11 properties that encroach on this alley, and they potentially could be affected by subsequent Code Enforcement issues. Each one of them individually. I think it will end up tying this council and the City staff. I would like to address that comprehensively. I can't get to that without your assistance in reconsideration. I respectfully request that.

Alan Clendenin

10:37:02AM Mr. Shelby, could you remind council of who on council could make a motion for reconsideration?

Martin Shelby

10:37:12AM Rule 4-e, motion to reconsider an action of council shall be made only by a member who previously voted on the prevailing side and shall be made at the same meeting or at the first subsequent regular meeting. I believe this was on the 17th of July. So this is the first regular meeting. And a second to the motion may be made by any member. Mr. Chairman, I do have the vote, or the clerk has the votes on that.

Alan Clendenin

10:37:42AM Which councilpersons would be eligible to make a motion for reconsideration?

The clerk

10:37:48AM Any council member except for Miranda. He is the only one who voted no.

Bill Carlson

10:37:53AM I voted against this project, and I don't know how I'll vote in the future. Based on new information, I'm willing to make a motion to reconsider.

Alan Clendenin

10:38:02AM Motion from Councilman Carlson. A second from Councilman Viera. Councilwoman Hurtak.

Lynn Hurtak

10:38:07AM I completely disagree because the problem is, people did something illegally, and we talked about forgiveness is not permission. And that's exactly what we would be doing. I respectfully disagree and I hope we don't reconsider this because folks need to solve their code issues before we consider vacating, because that's part of the problem. And that's, yeah, I will not support that.

Alan Clendenin

10:38:38AM Councilman Carlson. Councilman Viera.

Luis Viera

10:38:40AM My rationale is the same. I don't know how I'll vote on the second time and so forth, but if there is additional information that would be relevant to it, I would be willing to consider it. I'll go with an open mind. For me, that is the reasonable thing to do as far as I see it.

Alan Clendenin

10:38:57AM Hearing nothing else, I'll close the discussion. I feel exactly kind of the same way, but I'm willing to hear, if there's no evidence that we should have considered the first time around, I'm willing to step forward and hear the evidence, not that I'm saying I'll vote differently than the last time. Willing to hear the evidence.

Lynn Hurtak

10:39:16AM Do we have to hear the evidence right now?

Alan Clendenin

10:39:18AM No, it would come back up. This is just a motion for it to come before us. We have a motion from Councilman Carlson. Second from Councilman Viera. All those in favor say aye. Maybe we should have a roll call.

Luis Viera

10:39:33AM Yes.

Bill Carlson

10:39:33AM Yes.

Charlie Miranda

10:39:34AM Yes.

Guido Maniscalco

10:39:37AM [Inaudible]

Lynn Hurtak

10:39:38AM No.

Alan Clendenin

10:39:39AM Yes.

The clerk

10:39:40AM Motion carried with Hurtak voting no.

Martin Shelby

10:39:47AM You have to notice this and has to be set.

Steve Michelini

10:39:50AM I was going to ask, this is going to take a while to resolve this. So I would request that this be set at least six months out.

Alan Clendenin

10:40:01AM Wouldn't that be --

Steve Michelini

10:40:03AM Could be up to the staff as well.

Alan Clendenin

10:40:05AM You'll work with staff to get that set.

Steve Michelini

10:40:08AM Yes, sir.

Martin Shelby

10:40:12AM We could set a date to hold it.

Steve Michelini

10:40:18AM How about February?

Alan Clendenin

10:40:23AM We have a motion from Councilman Carlson, a second from Councilman Maniscalco to set the reconsideration for February 5, 2026 at 5:01 p.m. at 301 East Kennedy Boulevard. It would be 10:30 a.m.

Martin Shelby

10:40:39AM 10:30 a.m. February 5, 2026.

Alan Clendenin

10:40:45AM What Martin Shelby said. Motion from Councilman Carlson, second from Councilman Maniscalco. All those in favor, aye. Opposed?

Lynn Hurtak

10:40:52AM Nay.

The clerk

10:40:54AM Motion carried with Hurtak voting no.

Martin Shelby

10:40:57AM -- properly noticed --

Bill Carlson

10:41:00AM The comments that council member Hurtak mentioned are also comments that I made at the last meeting. Because we're not allowed to discuss this outside of this room, I think that there are some systemic issues, as many of us have observed in West Tampa in particular. It's not my district. I don't know, council member Miranda, maybe in new business if you want to workshop this at some point. I don't know how we resolve this problem where we get reports constantly of illegal structures all over the city. There are a lot of new immigrants in West Tampa, and maybe they don't know the rules or whatever. There may be a communication issue. May be an enforcement issue. I don't know. It would be great if we could address this systemically so we're not going project by project.

Charlie Miranda

10:41:50AM My name was mentioned, let me say this. When you look at what was said now by council member Carlson, yes, there are a lot of immigrants. The only problem I have with the system, and it's not personal to anyone, is that when you buy a house, and somebody did something to the house and you buy the house, they are going to hold you responsible for the house. This has nothing to do with this hearing, but I'm putting it together, because no one tells you when you buy a house what the laws are of the City of Tampa, what the regulations are. They assume you know what they are. Well, some people may assume and know and some people may assume and don't know. Driving by every day when I come here to work, I drive by a different street and I'm for having the alleys open or close at the right size. I don't think there are ten alleys in West Tampa that look alike. Some are eight foot wide with a tree in the center. Some are 12-foot wide with a tree in the center. Some may be even greater. But West Tampa has got to be looked at totally at one unit and why we're closing or opening alleys and half the time there's no reason that the people even knew what the law was. I'm not saying that's right or wrong. What I'm saying, it's practical that you have a speeding sign when you know you're on the street and how fast you need to go. Get a speeding ticket, shame on you. When you buy a house or sell a house, you're not held to any standard. Go to the attorney, let them hire an agency that checks all the records, make sure there's nothing that's going to prohibit you from being the house in danger after you buy it and that's it. After that, we come in and say, hey, it's your fault because you bought the house.

Alan Clendenin

10:43:42AM Councilman Miranda, can we save this for an additional discussion at another meeting? We have a night meeting tonight. As we move through this process, if everybody could try to keep their remarks short, that includes staff as they come up today for the numerous staff reports we have, because we all have to be back here at 5:01 p.m. we are going to reconsider. That has been set for February for the reconsideration. So we will see you all in February. Anybody else for reconsideration? Hearing none, we'll move on to our consent agenda. Public safety committee, Councilman Viera.

Luis Viera

10:44:22AM I move items -- [inaudible]

Alan Clendenin

10:44:27AM Motion from Councilman Viera, second from Councilman Miranda. All in favor aye. Neighborhood and community affairs committee, Lynn Hurtak, 10-21.

Lynn Hurtak

10:44:37AM I move items 10-21 noting that special event permit season is here, which means that the glimmer of hope for cooler weather is coming.

Alan Clendenin

10:44:49AM Motion from Councilwoman Hurtak, I believe a second from Councilman Miranda. All in favor, aye. Opposed? Ayes have IT. Infrastructure, Councilman Maniscalco, could you move items 22-34, except for item 32?

Guido Maniscalco

10:45:05AM Yes. I move items 22-34, except for item 32.

Alan Clendenin

10:45:10AM Motion from Councilman Maniscalco. Second from Councilman Miranda. All those in favor say aye? Opposed? The ayes have it. Finance committee.

Bill Carlson

10:45:19AM Quick comment. Number 29 is Tampa union station. We talk a lot about slow-walking things. We on the CRA Board approved funding for Tampa union station about five, six years ago. What this document shows is that there was an RFQ or RFA in July 2022. The first version of the contract was signed in January 2023.

Alan Clendenin

10:45:40AM Councilman Carlson, that would have been really great to pull that item for discussion, since we moved it, can you bring it up in new business.

Bill Carlson

10:45:46AM That's all I wanted to say.

Alan Clendenin

10:45:48AM Thank you. I'm trying to move this along since we have to be back at 5:00. Finance committee, Councilman Miranda.

Charlie Miranda

10:45:53AM Move items 35-39.

Alan Clendenin

10:45:56AM Motion from Councilman Miranda. Second from Councilman Maniscalco to move items 35-39. All those in favor, aye. Opposed? Ayes have it. Development and economic opportunity committee, Councilwoman Hurtak.

Lynn Hurtak

10:46:07AM I just want to say something about 53 and 54, which is the art space. I can't tell you all this because I can't talk to you off-line, but when I was in minneapolis in may, I actually met with art space, and they took me on a tour. Since art space was founded in minneapolis. So I got to see a tour of both one of the buildings they are redoing right now, like a reconstruction, reuse. And then I saw new construction, which is what we can expect to see. I definitely want to -- hopefully I can share some of those photos. Maybe send out an e-mail or put them on social media. But I also want to meet with the arts alliance and let them see the photos and have that discussion about what I saw. It's truly amazing. Lots of great space for artists. I'm so excited about this project. I'm so glad that we came to an agreement so we can help them.

Alan Clendenin

10:47:04AM Councilman Carlson.

Bill Carlson

10:47:05AM Let me ask you a clarifying question. In the past, we've been able to make short comments like that without having to pull an item.

Alan Clendenin

10:47:16AM I think right before the item, we moved on.

Bill Carlson

10:47:20AM You want us to make the comments before we --

Alan Clendenin

10:47:23AM We already moved on. The question was asked and answered and we were moving on.

Bill Carlson

10:47:26AM I have two quick comments and then also I want to have a colloquy with marty. I was the fiduciary agent, art space is the one getting the funding but fiduciary agent locally is the Tampa Arts Alliance. I'm a founding board member of the arts alliance. I don't have any business relationship with them other than I give them money. Over the last three years, given probably close to a hundred grand but I've never taken anything from them. I don't think I have a conflict of interest. I want to make sure that --

Martin Shelby

10:47:59AM This contract is not with your organization.

Bill Carlson

10:48:01AM It is with the arts alliance, which I'm on the board. It's a nonprofit.

Martin Shelby

10:48:06AM It is a nonprofit and you are not compensated, is that correct?

Bill Carlson

10:48:09AM No. it is the other way around. I give them money.

Martin Shelby

10:48:13AM You have no financial interest in this personally then or for your business.

Bill Carlson

10:48:17AM No.

Martin Shelby

10:48:18AM Thank you. I see no conflict of interest. I would say that you have a requirement to vote.

Bill Carlson

10:48:22AM Thank you. A quick comment, this is something worked on for many years and this money is another step in it. Ron weaver, I was one of the first people to get involved. Alex sink, many others in the community, neil gobioff and others involved. It is a really important project. The tech industry, innovation industry cannot exist out arts. Matthew richter from here, led the artist housing programs in seattle, has been a pro bono consultant to us. It's a really great project. Quickly, also, other comments, number 49 is the Jackson house. This is another one that's been a long time coming. The accardi brothers a few years ago gave a one- or two-year opportunity for the Jackson House Foundation to have access to this space. The foundation didn't do anything during that time, which is why we've had so many hearings. I've had a lot of conversations with the accardis as have others. I appreciate them moving forward. They are taking a big risk in signing this deal as it is now, and they are moving forward in good faith. I think we as a CRA Board and City Council have put a lot of faith in the Jackson House Foundation. What this does is it clears the way for the Jackson House Foundation to do what is right and fix this building. If they don't start fixing it quickly, I think it's up to the city or other governing agencies to take it upon themselves to say that we as a CRA Board have been trying to save this building for seven years. I personally have been trying to save it since 2012. I made a promise to willie Robinson I would try to save it. It makes me sick it's taken so long. And not the fault of the accardis. Thank you.

Alan Clendenin

10:50:14AM Thank you, Councilman Carlson. I know you've been dedicated to the Jackson house. I recognize the level of dedication. On the art space, I wish you guys all the success in the world. Very supportive of it. When that is successful, I want to build a similar type of project in East Tampa dedicated to black american artists. I think that would be a catalyst project for that neighborhood. Whatever we perceive as the downtown area and love to see us replicate that success. Best of luck with your project because your project hopefully will be the seed for many more. Thank you so much. We'll pull 53 and 54 for separate vote. I would like a motion from Councilman Carlson to move items 40 through 56 with the exception of 51, 53, 54. We have a motion from Councilman Carlson, second from Councilman Miranda. All those in favor say aye. Opposed? Let's have a vote on 53. We have a motion from Councilman Maniscalco --

Charlie Miranda

10:51:26AM Let me say this if I may one second. If it wasn't for the artists, who knows where Ybor City would be today because they are the ones that started the revitalization of Ybor City 30 years ago, whenever it was, when no one was there. It was tumbleweed and everything else.

Alan Clendenin

10:51:42AM Thank you. Motion from Councilman Maniscalco. Second from Councilman Hurtak on item 53. All those in favor, aye. Opposed?

The clerk

10:51:52AM Motion carried with Viera voting no.

Alan Clendenin

10:51:55AM Moving to 54. Motion from Councilman Maniscalco. A second from Councilman Hurtak. All those in favor say aye. Opposed?

The clerk

10:52:04AM Motion carried with Viera voting no.

Alan Clendenin

10:52:07AM Thank you. Mobility, asset and management committee, Councilwoman Hurtak, 57 through 61.

Lynn Hurtak

10:52:14AM Thank you. I move items 57 through 61.

Alan Clendenin

10:52:18AM Motion from Councilwoman Hurtak. Second from Councilman Maniscalco. All those in favor say aye. Opposed? Ayes have it.

Guido Maniscalco

10:52:25AM Move to set 62 through 67 for public hearings with those respective dates and times.

Alan Clendenin

10:52:33AM Motion from Councilman Maniscalco. Second from Councilman Viera. All those in favor, aye. Opposed? Ayes have it.

Guido Maniscalco

10:52:39AM Move to open 10:30 vacation, blc-22-185-c and remove it from the agenda.

Alan Clendenin

10:52:54AM We have a motion to open --

Martin Shelby

10:52:58AM You don't have to do --

Alan Clendenin

10:53:02AM It was misnoticed.

Martin Shelby

10:53:05AM Does that include the second read?

Alan Clendenin

10:53:08AM I thought we already removed it from the agenda.

Martin Shelby

10:53:11AM No. you received and filed. You don't have to --

Guido Maniscalco

10:53:15AM Move to remove 68 due to misnotice and reschedule to September 4, 2025 for 10:30 a.m.

Alan Clendenin

10:53:26AM It was a separate issue. We have a motion from Councilman Maniscalco. Second from Councilman Miranda to remove item 68 from the agenda. All those in favor say aye. Opposed? The ayes have it. Would we like to go to the items that we pulled? Councilwoman Hurtak is not here. She pulled both of those. Administrative reports. Susan Johnson Velez, are you ready for that?

10:54:10AM Oh, the pulled items. We're waiting for Councilwoman Hurtak. Susan.

Susan Johnson-Velez

10:54:18AM Susan Johnson Velez, Legal Department. I wanted to come and report to council, as many of you may be aware in the 2025 legislative session, the Florida Legislature adopted senate bill 180, which, among other things, renders null and void land development regulations and comprehensive plan amendments that were adopted after August 1st of 2024, to be null and void. There is a time range provided. August 1, 2024, through October 1 of 2027. During that time frame, under this legislation, certain municipalities in the City of Tampa included in there are precluded from adopting more restrictive or more burdensome land development regulations or comprehensive plan amendments. So the Legal Department is undertaking a very thoughtful and careful review of those matters, which council has adopted since August 1st of last year to determine which are clearly run afoul of the senate bill and which might be able to be saved in whole or in part. We wanted to advise you that we were taking a look at that since we're aware some of you may have received questions either directly or by phone or e-mail about that, and we would like to come back with a full report to council at your September 25th workshop.

Alan Clendenin

10:55:42AM Is part of that discussion whether we can ice those items -- like, temporary hold the items until the suspension is over and reinstitute them in whole?

Susan Johnson-Velez

10:55:52AM Yes, part of the discussion will include that, yes. We're taking a look at which ones we think might need to have that happen or which ones we might be able to save some of the things that we're proposing and which ones might be able to continue as adopted.

Alan Clendenin

10:56:06AM Excellent. Council have any other questions?

Susan Johnson-Velez

10:56:10AM We'd ask that council set the matter on your workshop September 25 for a more full report from the Legal Department on that.

Lynn Hurtak

10:56:22AM I'm willing to do that. I have an item on that workshop agenda that I'm willing to move to January to make sure that gets done. First of all, I motion to move -- and this was councilwoman Henderson's motion initially, and then I took it over, to discuss the council salaries for the future election cycle beginning May 1st, 2027. I would like to move that conversation to the January workshop, which is on January 29.

Alan Clendenin

10:56:59AM Motion from Councilwoman Hurtak. Second from Councilman Viera. All in favor? Aye. Opposed? The ayes have it. It was unanimous.

Lynn Hurtak

10:57:11AM I didn't know if anybody else had anything that they might be willing to move from that. September 25. While people are looking, I will make the motion then to set this -- the discussion about sb 180 to the September 25 workshop.

Alan Clendenin

10:57:33AM Motion from Councilwoman Hurtak. Second from Councilman Maniscalco. All those in favor say aye. Ayes have it unanimous. Councilman Viera.

Luis Viera

10:57:47AM Yes, sir. There was a request to move, I have no objection. I have staff to report on housing for people with disabilities. If we can get it on October, to make the agenda run more smoothly, I have no objection to that. I would make a motion if we can, so long --

10:58:07AM My only stipulation -- actually, no, we don't have a ton. So long as it's number 2, I'm fine with that or stays as number 2.

Alan Clendenin

10:58:19AM We have a motion from Councilman Viera to move the item for housing for people with disabilities to October 30 workshop. Second from Councilwoman Hurtak. All those in favor say aye. Opposed? The ayes have it. What is happening --

Lynn Hurtak

10:58:37AM We're working on that. I think actually Ms. Feeley, I want to say she wanted that possibly moved to October, the last I heard. We'll see what -- maybe Ms. Feeley will pop on if she feels that need. Oh there she is.

Alan Clendenin

10:58:54AM It wasn't even three times.

Lynn Hurtak

10:58:56AM I'll say it one more time to make her face appear. Ms. Feeley. There! It worked!

Abbye Feeley

10:59:03AM Good morning, council. Abbye Feeley. Yes, I think I actually in knowing what Ms. Johnson Velez was bringing forward and also that I have been in communication with the Downtown Partnership, they are currently in their selection process for a firm, and that being that tomorrow is August 1st, I don't know that that firm will have content to bring back to you at the end of September. But I am working closely to coordinate with kenyetta at the partnership to see where we will be on that. That being said, I think you now have four land development type or development type of discussions that could take place and be packaged onto that September agenda, and we would be greatly appreciative of that. I can check with kenyetta and get you back a firm finding on that motion related to what is currently scheduled on that agenda as well.

Lynn Hurtak

11:00:08AM Ms. Feeley, do you think you might have that by today?

Abbye Feeley

11:00:14AM I can work on that or maybe try to get that to you before your evening session tonight, if that would be okay, I could work on it this afternoon once I finish my agenda items with you this morning.

Lynn Hurtak

11:00:26AM Great. I'll take that on. I know Ms. Scharf is listening. You can work with her on that.

Alan Clendenin

11:00:36AM Iou on that, but for now, that is done. Councilman Carlson.

Bill Carlson

11:00:41AM Two quick comments. You just moved the future council salary issue to January. I'm hopeful that we can ask the Charter Review Commission to look at it.

Lynn Hurtak

11:00:55AM Good idea.

Bill Carlson

11:00:56AM We've talked about this in the past, but I hope no future council has to vote on their salaries. I hope we create a formula. Discussion for another day.

Lynn Hurtak

11:01:05AM I agree with you.

Bill Carlson

11:01:07AM Ms. Johnson Velez, since that is a workshop, I presume that we're going to discuss the issues. Shouldn't we go ahead -- where did she go? Hopefully we can schedule at a night meeting or day meeting, like two weeks later, to actually put an agenda item to discuss maybe removing those. I think reason two different ones, typically don't approve something at a workshop. Second, gives a couple of weeks for members of the public to come forward if they have any legal objections or precedent in their interpretation of the new state law.

Martin Shelby

11:01:42AM Mr. Carlson, I don't believe they will be taking any action at the workshop whatsoever. Depending on what you discuss, council's choice then to set it for future.

Bill Carlson

11:01:54AM Considering that we're removing things now into January, we may want to schedule for two weeks later, put that on the agenda -- [network loss]

Martin Shelby

11:02:18AM -- a lot of cities, and counties are struggling with the effects of this. But I don't know what is going to come of it, and perhaps whatever action has to be taken would probably have to be noticed in some form of fashion anyway.

Bill Carlson

11:02:41AM We're going to need some time for the public to be able to know when it's coming back, and for sure we shouldn't make any decisions at the workshop.

Martin Shelby

11:02:45AM I think your intention then is to communicate that council doesn't intend to do anything rashly on this.

Alan Clendenin

11:02:53AM Hearing nothing else, we'll move on to item 32. Councilwoman Hurtak.

Lynn Hurtak

11:03:07AM Okay. As Ms. Poynor Shared earlier, I actually pulled all of the things, the memo and things from that January or rather from that February 15 council session. I watched myself say to make a motion to move forward, that staff add the 2%. So I'm really curious why staff did not follow the motion that council made unanimously.

Bill Carlson

11:03:46AM In your research, did you find language revoking that was included or embedded in some other approval that we gave?

Lynn Hurtak

11:03:55AM Not that I'm aware of.

Alan Clendenin

11:03:58AM -- had this conversation. I think be able to provide insight. I know accounting staff has done some research into it. Why we have not implemented, I do not know, ma'am. I'll be real honest with you. I will tell you that a week ago Monday I was appointed to assume responsibility for managing the accounting staff. And I was off last week. I'm really day four of managing that staff. Since that time, Justin Vaske, we've done research. We are looking forward, we're going to set up a meeting with bank of america who provides our merchant services. Right now, based on what I know, we can go one of two paths. Either continue working with bank of america or go out and get a consultant who can guide us through this process. The only thing I'm asking t and I to do is be a part of it. I've seen enough implementations in the city where we go down one path and park mobile goes, I can't do that. We really need to do a comprehensive approach to this. I don't have a path to get there. I can provide that to you, once we develop the plan. I will tell you that Justin has provided me and the accounting staff, provided me a slide presentation from manatee county who went through these. I want to point out some of the highlights. Manatee county departments have unique operating billing and collection systems. They do different methods to process credit cards, detail electronic. They do point of sale third-party vendor, gateway process, combination of each. I'm telling you that this is not an easy process. Please give me time to go ahead and develop a plan and implement that plan. Of course, as we go along the way, and we need contracts, those contracts will have to come back before council for approval.

Lynn Hurtak

11:06:08AM I appreciate that. However, that is what we had asked Mr. Rogero to do, and he came back with a plan and we voted to follow the plan. I can't figure out what happened to the plan.

Alan Clendenin

11:06:26AM Can Mr. Perry add and then recognize you?

Bill Carlson

11:06:29AM Can I add to what she said? Just to further, I think you had asked for it. He did an analysis of the options and there were three or four options, and we chose one of them. All that study has been done.

Lynn Hurtak

11:06:44AM Yeah, it was his recommendation.

Alan Clendenin

11:06:46AM Mr. Perry.

Michael Perry

11:06:47AM Again, budget office at that time. Still have the budget office. I was not involved in getting third party. I apologize for that. Since I came back on Friday, Mr. Rogero Has been on vacation, so he and I have not been able to communicate. We're really being caught flatfooted. Please give us time to come back to you and provide clearer information.

Alan Clendenin

11:07:12AM Councilwoman Hurtak.

Lynn Hurtak

11:07:17AM I just want you to -- so how much time are you looking for?

Michael Perry

11:07:24AM I don't know, ma'am. Week ago today I couldn't even spell merchant. Here I am learning about it. I need to get myself up to date on the whole process. My experience is just like most of you, I take my credit card. I take my ach and I pay and everything goes in the background. Let me get educated on the process, please.

Alan Clendenin

11:07:49AM What I'm hearing is that this was in Mr. Rogero's portfolio --

Michael Perry

11:07:55AM Really the former accounting officer's portfolio. Lee huffstutler.

Alan Clendenin

11:08:00AM That person is gone.

Michael Perry

11:08:02AM Correct.

Alan Clendenin

11:08:03AM Councilwoman Hurtak.

Lynn Hurtak

11:08:07AM I know we have other people that want to speak, too, but I would like, even if you are not completely done, I would like to you come forward, because we have to solve this before the budget. Not solve it, solve it.

Michael Perry

11:08:22AM Get down the glide path.

Lynn Hurtak

11:08:25AM August 28, just for simple update. What I am looking for is -- and you might have this number right now, how much money we allocated to this in the '25 budget.

Michael Perry

11:08:38AM Allocated to what, ma'am?

Lynn Hurtak

11:08:41AM To paying credit card -- because I know -- I believe it's only for water and parking. Water, wastewater, storm -- I mean Solid Waste and parking.

Michael Perry

11:08:51AM Right. That is the impact of the financial resolution, consumer affairs and parking.

Lynn Hurtak

11:09:02AM Overall is there any other place where people pay with a credit card that we're paying?

Michael Perry

11:09:08AM Let me look at the report.

Lynn Hurtak

11:09:10AM Again, you can give this to us in august. Or if you have it in advance, it would be nice to maybe send an e-mail. I'll work with you on that. But not only that, because from my understanding, there's already two and a half million dollars that's -- that was the initial ask for the '25 budget.

Michael Perry

11:09:33AM I cannot confirm or deny that.

Lynn Hurtak

11:09:35AM This is an additional 2.5 million.

Michael Perry

11:09:39AM I'm not going to say anything confirm or deny that, ma'am. I just don't know that.

Lynn Hurtak

11:09:45AM I want to state that this 2.5 million, if we hadn't gotten the paving money back, is paving money. If you want to pay by credit card, that's fine, but that's your option.

Alan Clendenin

11:09:55AM Councilman Carlson.

Bill Carlson

11:09:57AM I think that analysis by department -- I'm going by memory, but I think it was in the -- a year or two ago. Just for anybody watching this for the first time, several years ago, I think it was the federal government allowed merchants to charge credit card fees. They get charged anywhere from I think 2% to 4%, depending on what credit card you use. The issue is that people who pay cash are subsidizing the people that pay credit cards. If I recall, going from memory, I think the total cost to the city was somewhere around 4 million. This is 4 million that we would have to raise rates, so we have to raise water rates or other rates to cover that. By doing that, it means the people who are not using credit cards are subsidizing everybody else. Many merchants or most merchants have gone in most government agencies gone to charging. Options were like a fixed fee per transaction, like $2 per transaction or a percentage. There were different options. The idea here is to recover expenses that are being incurred and not charge all the ratepayers because of the costs incurred by a few.

Martin Shelby

11:11:13AM Just a question for the maker. Councilwoman Hurtak, is then your motion then to continue this particular item?

Lynn Hurtak

11:11:21AM I would like Mr. Maniscalco and anybody else who wants to speak first. Then I'll make a motion.

Martin Shelby

11:11:28AM You raised coming back on a particular day.

Lynn Hurtak

11:11:30AM He really wants to speak, so I want to let him speak and then we'll do something.

Guido Maniscalco

11:11:35AM Thank you so much. To get this straight, we are not charging the payer or the consumer a convenience fee or credit card fee if they are paying when it comes to parking and water?

Michael Perry

11:11:50AM And probably the other departments who also use credit cards, such as construction services. I do believe we have may have some point of sales in the Parks and Recreation Department.

Guido Maniscalco

11:12:00AM We'll wait for your report when you come back.

Michael Perry

11:12:03AM Yes.

Guido Maniscalco

11:12:03AM I know someone that was paying their rent with a credit card, and they were paying like a 2.8 or 3 percent fee with credit card. I told them just pay ach out of your bank account and still got charged $2.50 convenience fee. Yeah, only $2.50, but the only way to avoid that was to go in person to the landlord and bring a check. By the time you spend the gas, there is your $2.50. I renewed my license plate, vehicle registration the other day, I got a convenience fee. I use park mobile, I get a convenience fee. It adds up. When I saw that, when that person paid the rent the other day and they did it ach and still got a fee, I'm like everybody charges a fee. Why are we subsidizing -- this is a lot of money. $2.5 million, because everybody charges the convenience fee. And we certainly need to look at this, this, as was already mentioned, this is paving money. It's a lot of money. Again, everybody -- I'm trying to think where I go to a restaurant, they are not charging me a credit card fee, because I took my mom out to eat last night for her birthday, 39 years old.

Alan Clendenin

11:13:18AM She'll appreciate that.

Guido Maniscalco

11:13:19AM Like everybody has got something. And this is big money when it comes at the end of the day. We'll wait for your report. I know you are new in this as things have shifted. I appreciate it. I'm glad Councilwoman Hurtak brought this up.

Lynn Hurtak

11:13:33AM I put it on the wolf. This is the memo. And I will make a copy and make sure everyone gets it. But that was Mr. Rogero's memo. And it talked about the estimated billing and the outside vendors. It literally has everything on it about what we had considered. So I'll make sure that everybody gets a copy of this memo and any other memos from there. Yeah, absolutely. Thank you, council member Carlson, for reminding me. We have already done the research. I'll make sure you get a copy as well.

Alan Clendenin

11:14:09AM Would you like to make a motion to continue the item to August 28? Mr. Perry.

Michael Perry

11:14:19AM I need -- I think you need -- the motion -- I need the financial resolution done so we can pay the bills because they are coming from the bank and we don't have a choice of not paying them.

Alan Clendenin

11:14:33AM That would be in new business.

Lynn Hurtak

11:14:39AM Ms. Scharf and I will work with your office either during lunch or between regular and evening session to make a motion that makes sense. If anybody wants to add anything, reach out to kelly.

Alan Clendenin

11:14:56AM Motion to move item 32 so we can pay the bills? Motion from Councilman Carlson. Second from Councilman Miranda. All those in favor say aye. Opposed?

The clerk

11:15:10AM Motion carried with Hurtak voting no and Viera being absent at vote.

Alan Clendenin

11:15:14AM Thank you. So we will look forward to new business to address this issue for another date.

Michael Perry

11:15:23AM Mr. Chair, Will that be a written report or in-person report.

Alan Clendenin

11:15:28AM We'll address that in new business.

Lynn Hurtak

11:15:30AM Yeah, but it will be in person.

Alan Clendenin

11:15:33AM That will come in new business for clarity. Ms. Hurtak, you pulled item 51. Quickly, Ms. Scharf is here, would you prefer the documents to be e-mailed or hard copies?

11:15:51AM So item 51.

Bill Carlson

11:15:55AM That the clerk is copied too.

Lynn Hurtak

11:15:58AM Absolutely. I want to make sure everybody, that it becomes part of the public record. I know Ms. Scharf is listening back there. Please make sure the clerk is copied so we can get this added to the on-base record. Item 51, I had a very simple question. I talked to Mr. Rogero during the first of many budget conversations. One of the things I just wanted to make sure is the way that the FY 24 extra money ended up in the General Fund is because that's what happens at the end of every year. I do realize we're not going to be able to expend all $12 million by the end of the year. I wanted to know exactly what it will take to make sure that the amounts that we allocated and that we are approving today then get transferred to the exact same buckets in the 2026 budget.

Michael Perry

11:17:01AM Okay. Will do.

Alan Clendenin

11:17:05AM Since we're starting a new item, state your name again.

Michael Perry

11:17:08AM Sorry. Mike Perry, Revenue and Finance. Item number 51 is a financial resolution as council requested, moving assigned fund balance, resulting from the year-end fiscal year 2024. So before you is approval of a $12 million financial resolution which appropriates money into the stormwater special revenue fund, service fund, I apologize. It moves money into the Local Option Gas Tax fund for resurfacing and sidewalks. It also moves money into the grant program fund. Now, to answer your question, Councilwoman Hurtak, the good thing is this money leaves the General Fund. As soon as they get a resolution number, the money will move, hopefully by tomorrow, and it will go to those funds. As I have up here, I'm going to get geeky on you. Apologize. We have closing funds, which means on September 30, the appropriation goes away. So as far as the stormwater service fund, whatever money is unused, we'll have to come back to council to reappropriate those funds. But those monies will be in a separate fund, the Stormwater Service Assessment Fund. The other three -- or other two transfers, one to the Local Option Gas Tax Capital Fund is moving towards a capital construction fund. And in capital projects, once we appropriate the funding to the project, it stays generally for the life of the project. We may move it administratively, but I don't think we're going to do that. I know I'm not going to do that. The same thing with the housing grant fund. That money goes there. Even though it is not a grant fund, we treat it like it is because of the nature of what we're trying to do. So we'll continue moving those funds into next year administratively. Hopefully that answers your question.

Bill Carlson

11:19:14AM Two questions, sorry to have to ask you this for transparency purposes, is there any way the administration can use the capital projects fund or any of this on the South Howard project?

Michael Perry

11:19:25AM No. because the South Howard project is currently funded at least in two funds. I think two or three. Two of them may be bond funds, which is outside of the service assessment fund. And the other fund is the capital improvement fund, which is a distinct and unique project fund.

Bill Carlson

11:19:44AM I know kind of a rhetorical question. I want to make sure because the community wants that project canceled. The other question is, is there anything in here that prohibits the administration from using this money on parades? We learned from public records that the administration used stormwater money to man parades, which upset the public. Is there any prohibition on using this money for parades or can they do that?

Michael Perry

11:20:20AM I'm not aware of any legal restrictions in the stormwater service fund. But remember Mr. Bhide came back and we moved 11 people out of the stormwater service fund back to the mobility fund. I think part of that was to address the issue with the parades.

Bill Carlson

11:20:37AM Marty or Mr. Vaske, is it possible we can add another line to the motion to prohibit the administration from using this money for parades?

Justin Vaske

11:20:51AM Justin Vaske, Legal Department. That is a little tricky. Sounds like more of an administrative function that you would be trying to stop. I would say no.

Bill Carlson

11:21:02AM Stormwater money that the public thinks will be used for stormwater, not parades. Marty, are we allowed to put -- I don't think we're allowed to amend their proposal, right? We can either accept it or reject it.

Martin Shelby

11:21:19AM The budget amendment is a stack of numbers and a stack of funds. I don't believe you can put in provisions. You can't make things provisional.

Bill Carlson

11:21:29AM Enterprise funds, though, have restrictions already, right? But somehow allegedly they used stormwater money, which is enterprise fund on parades, which they shouldn't have done.

Alan Clendenin

11:21:40AM Councilwoman Hurtak.

Lynn Hurtak

11:21:45AM I appreciate and agree with you on that. I think one of the ways that we can monitor it and that we are talking about monitoring it is stormwater reports. Right now we're getting the actual work, but maybe if we also added some financial reports to that. I mean, to that he wanted, I want to let you all know that I actually am proposing to have a separate budget stormwater evening meeting. I know that's going to be hard. It's not going to be fun. I am hoping to have that meeting on August 11, that evening. I can talk about it later. That's Monday night after the enterprise fund budget discussion. So I agree with you. And I appreciate your explanation. I'm also probably going to do a motion later to make sure that goes where it is supposed to, even though it sounds like it will. I will feel better with a motion for the 2026 budget.

Alan Clendenin

11:23:03AM Councilman Miranda, I saw your light was on. Did you want to speak in.

Charlie Miranda

11:23:08AM No.

Luis Viera

11:23:08AM I would be glad to second the motion, something to the effect of every quarter seeing what if any stormwater funds were spent on parades or something, if we can't legally do it with this. Just an idea.

Alan Clendenin

11:23:21AM During our budget process, I was going to speak -- of creating -- Mr. Shelby and I had conversations about this in the last two years of what kind of guardrails and direction we can put on as council as we move forward in a more mature council, as we're getting more hands on, on these issues. I think we probably need legal interpretations of where we are at and what we are within our realm of responsibility.

Martin Shelby

11:23:50AM I would be happy to talk with Mr. Vaske about looking at the documents that control the spending of this money, the ordinances and the like, and see --

Alan Clendenin

11:24:00AM What kind of direction can council provide, what kind of guardrails?

Martin Shelby

11:24:03AM The thing is, requires perhaps putting an amended ordinance or document that actually controls what the direction is policy-wise to the administration.

Alan Clendenin

11:24:14AM I look forward to that conversation and continuing that so you and I off-line can talk about that and maybe get it on a workshop or schedule it.

Lynn Hurtak

11:24:24AM If I may, that's actually one of the things I would like to talk about with a special stormwater budget workshop.

Alan Clendenin

11:24:31AM I think it transcends beyond --

Lynn Hurtak

11:24:33AM I agree.

Alan Clendenin

11:24:34AM Across every line of business.

Lynn Hurtak

11:24:36AM If we can talk about it in stormwater, we might be able to replicate --

Alan Clendenin

11:24:41AM As a catalyst.

Lynn Hurtak

11:24:42AM Like the art space discussion, using it as a catalyst for housing and other types of housing.

Bill Carlson

11:24:49AM Marty, one possible solution maybe after the budgeting process is if we had a workshop to talk about the enterprise funds and how they are governed. Some of them are governed by bond covenants but some I think are more accounting, and maybe this is a reason why we should more formalize them through ordinances to set guardrails for the enterprise fund in general. We've seen enterprise funds being shifted around us. We ultimately have to approve them. Moving from this account to this account, we can't see what it will be spent on. Create an ordinance to create a box, maybe that would help. But another discussion.

Alan Clendenin

11:25:28AM We're back to item 51. What is the pleasure?

Lynn Hurtak

11:25:33AM Make a motion to move.

Alan Clendenin

11:25:35AM Motion to move 51 from Hurtak. Second from Maniscalco. In favor? Aye. Opposed? Unanimous. Ayes have it. Thank you.

11:25:49AM You talk as much. Very good.

Michael Perry

11:25:52AM Thank you. Have a good weekend.

Alan Clendenin

11:25:54AM Absolutely. We are moving on to item 70, staff reports. Can you hear me okay?

11:26:16AM We can. Loud and clear. Good morning. Adriana Colina, director of Logistics and Asset Management, here on item 70. A memo was submitted. This is requesting the renewal of the multi-services contract for the coming year.

Lynn Hurtak

11:26:38AM I have no concern with this. The only thing is, members of the public have been asking what was it spent on last year. I was hoping we could get a list of the projects that was worked on. Maybe in the future, as you come back every year, to have a list of the projects because I think it is good for the community to see the small businesses that were able to support with this and the types of work they do for the city.

Bill Carlson

11:27:11AM Second.

Lynn Hurtak

11:27:12AM I would request a copy of that list. Do you have a timeline for when you might be able to provide that?

Adriana Colina

11:27:18AM Yes. Actually, I want to apologize to you, because you may recall we came before you in January, and we did provide an update at that quarter of what had been completed and where we were. Honestly, council approved the multi-services contract, the existing one last August. Then we ran into hurricane season. So on, so forth. Ends of January, we did give you a report on where we were. There was a report submitted for quarter three. It got lost in e-mail-ville. We found out this morning. I apologize for that. I can tell you during that quarter we had six projects close. From January to march. And very excited to share with you that the job program is doing what it was intended to do. One was notice to proceed in December of 2024. Some in January and February and they all closed by the end of march. It was nearly $300,000 that were confirmed as paid to WMBE and slb. So we're working very closely with evo and the Purchasing Department. The projects that were completed during that time include work at Tampa Convention Center, three different parking garages, fort brooke, pam iorio and Convention Center, and work at dundee park and Water department front gate. We're hitting a lot of departments. We're spreading the love among contractors as we promised. And it's happening expeditiously. I'm happy to have this opportunity to share the report. We will get the written report to you that definitely shows the project and shows the ones that we have active.

Lynn Hurtak

11:29:08AM If I were to make a motion for a written report so you can come back and provide that, so you wouldn't have to come to us, just a written report on one of the agendas, what kind of timeline would you like? How about a month?

Adriana Colina

11:29:22AM We propose submitting them together with the regular purchasing reports that you receive. We do this in tandem so we can keep that continuously if that works for council.

Lynn Hurtak

11:29:33AM Okay. That's fine. Do you want me to make a motion to add that to the purchasing report?

Adriana Colina

11:29:42AM I believe there already was a motion from last year. -- end of January. And the q 3 report, I apologize, it's somewhere in e-mail-ville, but you will have it soon.

Lynn Hurtak

11:29:55AM Thank you so much. I really appreciate that.

Adriana Colina

11:29:58AM Thank you all. Have a great day.

Lynn Hurtak

11:30:01AM Move item 70.

Alan Clendenin

11:30:03AM Motion from Councilwoman Hurtak. Second from Carlson. All in favor, aye? Opposed? Ayes have it unanimous. Brad Baird, item 71, 72, 73. Not Brad Baird. The other Brad Baird.

Richard Mutterback

11:30:16AM Richard Mutterback, Contract Administration. Brad Baird is sitting in a dentist chair somewhere. I'm sure he would rather be here.

Alan Clendenin

11:30:25AM I suspect he would rather be in the dentist chair. [ laughter ] go ahead. Councilman Carlson.

Bill Carlson

11:30:33AM My only question on these, and it is a concern of Harbour Island because things have been slid into contracts unexpectedly in the last few years. Can you confirm there's no budget included in here to build or direction to build red lights on Franklin Street by the Convention Center?

Richard Mutterback

11:30:56AM Yes, Sir. This is only for Whiting Street from meridian to channelside district and includes no lights whatsoever. It's streetscape and underground utility relocation.

Alan Clendenin

11:31:12AM We have a motion from Councilman Maniscalco to approve item 71 and 72. A second from Councilman Carlson. All those in favor, aye. Opposed? Ayes have it.

Eric Weiss

11:31:26AM Eric Weiss, Wastewater Department director. Item 73 is award of construction project at the Howard Curren Solid Waste treatment plant. It is part of the master plan and a pipes project. It has a real technical name. Diffused air reactor rehabilitation project. In layman's term, that means it is the wastewater treatment process that removes the nitrogen from the wastewater. Two things the contract is doing is rehabilitating anywhere from 30 to 50 year old equipment that's past its service life. Really, the second thing, it is expanding our capacity to remove more nitrogen from the wastewater. I would say one last thing about it, too, it's really kind of the crown jewel, the nitrogen removal process started in 1970s from the clean water act when we did this. Really, this process is kind of credited with helping restore Tampa Bay and keep the water quality the way it is today.

Alan Clendenin

11:32:22AM Excellent.

11:32:26AM Councilwoman Hurtak and then Councilman Maniscalco.

Lynn Hurtak

11:32:29AM Isn't this also part of helping us reduce, follow the state law that requires us to reduce the discharge or amount of nitrogen in discharge?

Eric Weiss

11:32:43AM Not directly because you have to do a beneficial use from that. It will reduce the nitrogen before that due date. But no.

Alan Clendenin

11:32:53AM Councilman Maniscalco.

Guido Maniscalco

11:32:54AM Brad Baird told me a story, still might have the glass to test that the -- or show that the water so clean they drank it out of champagne glasses. He might have the original glass. We have a lot to be proud of. Going back to the early days, back to the '70s post EPA, we've always been on top of water quality. Thank you.

Alan Clendenin

11:33:16AM We've had a significant loss of sea grass, too. Anything we can do to improve the quality of the water we're discharging and sea grass is still dying. We definitely have to get on top of that. Councilman Carlson.

Bill Carlson

11:33:27AM We also know from previous testimony that this water that he's already putting out is many times cleaner than the water coming out of the Hillsborough River. The Hillsborough River is significantly affecting the bay. But also, the section of the bay that is near this plant is much healthier than the other sections that don't circulate as much. This water is most likely helping it. Had the buckhorn administration not changed the law, this water would be a beneficial use because it is helping the sea grass. What you're doing is going to be better. The thing I want to say beyond that -- I've said this to you before, but thank you so much, during the hurricanes and after, there were some wastewater issues, and we sat together with some very, very angry homeowners. We can understand their anger because they had wastewater in their streets and sometimes in their houses. I want to thank you and your staff for being so incredibly responsive and you stood there personally and worked with them and the issues on Davis Islands and others. That is an example of good government, where we listen to the people and respond to them and adapt things based on what the people need. Wastewater, there's probably nothing more important to make sure that we're adapting our science and our processes to make sure the public is best served. Thank you.

Alan Clendenin

11:34:51AM Our czar of water, Councilman Miranda.

Charlie Miranda

11:34:55AM I'm not the czar of water. There's no water that we drink here in Florida that's not cleaned out to the best ability. Because our water mainly comes from the green swamp and the Hillsborough River. That's where it comes from. That is not 100% clean. We have through technology, all the water departments throughout the country know how to work it and take everything out so it makes it what it is today. I still believe City of Tampa is fortunate to have the individuals we have working in wastewater, water, and tertiary treatment plant that do such an outstanding job that they are excellent, not excellent, superior and excellent at the same time. Thank you very much.

Alan Clendenin

11:35:34AM Thank you, sir. We don't have to do anything on this one. Hear it again in august. If there's no objection from council, I'll try to push through and finish the agenda before lunch and then done until tonight. Is that good with you guys? Okay. Very good. Item 74.

Lynn Hurtak

11:35:56AM This is the one I wanted to talk about. We talked about doing a stormwater audit. I've been working behind the scenes with staff, and this turned out to be a little bit bigger than an audit. A, Ms. Glover really talked about right now she has a lack of staff. The private sector keeps poaching our people. It's not her fault. It's just, you know, she's too good. So one of the things I thought about instead of doing an audit for stormwater is to simply add a very specific budget meeting that would occur on August 11, which is the evening. That would be a Monday night, that would be the evening of the same day that we're having the enterprise fund budget. And would focus specifically on stormwater, both operations and capital. We could talk about this. We could talk about where all the stormwater money is coming and going. Right now, we have a lot of money, and because of item number 82 that had to be continued because of a host of different reasons, Ms. Kopesky won't have that data until August 11. We'll be able to hear it August 11. We'll be able to -- rather, sorry, 7th. Take it on August 11 and really discuss where we want to put money. But having it at 5:01 also allows the public to come to talk about what, quite frankly, was the most traumatic thing that most of our citizens went through last year and to ask for specific portions and for us to be able to make sure that we can fund stormwater the way we need to fund it.

Alan Clendenin

11:37:56AM If I hear you correctly, you're going to put forth a motion to remove item 74 from this agenda. Then during new business, you'll propose adding an evening session on August 11 to address stormwater, which will incorporate the issues you intended in item 74.

Lynn Hurtak

11:38:12AM Yes. But I would like to do that now. I do also want to say I've spoken with staff, spoken with chief of staff, Ms. Duncan, her office, they are prepared to do that. I see Mr. Campbell in the back nodding his head. He is prepared to have this meeting as well.

Alan Clendenin

11:38:30AM Motion to waive the rules to be able to address a new business item? Motion from Councilman Carlson. Second from Councilman Viera. All those in favor, aye. Opposed? Ayes have it.

Bill Carlson

11:38:40AM I second the motion for --

Lynn Hurtak

11:38:43AM My motion is to strike item 74, that's my first motion.

Alan Clendenin

11:38:49AM Remove item 74. Motion to remove item 74 from today's agenda. Second from Councilman Maniscalco. -- sorry, Councilman Miranda. All those in favor, aye. Opposed? Ayes have it.

Lynn Hurtak

11:39:01AM Again, I move just because of the importance of this issue to this community right now, I move to add an extra special call budget workshop focused on stormwater to August 11, which is a Monday at 5 p.m. in City Council Chambers.

Alan Clendenin

11:39:25AM Is the council chambers available, do we know?

Lynn Hurtak

11:39:30AM That is one thing I did not do.

Alan Clendenin

11:39:32AM Clerk, is August 11 in the evening, council chambers available?

Lynn Hurtak

11:39:38AM I thought I had all my ts crossed. I missed an I.

The clerk

11:39:58AM [Inaudible]

Lynn Hurtak

11:39:58AM I'll make the motion now, and if anything changes, we can handle it this evening.

Alan Clendenin

11:40:03AM We have a motion to add special call meeting for stormwater August 11 from Councilwoman Hurtak.

Lynn Hurtak

11:40:09AM 5:01, 315 East Kennedy Boulevard, Tampa, Florida, 33602.

Alan Clendenin

11:40:20AM Second from Councilman Carlson. Councilman Viera.

Luis Viera

11:40:22AM I believe I will be out of town that week with my son. But I will try to appear virtually for part of it.

Alan Clendenin

11:40:31AM We have a day meeting, too.

Luis Viera

11:40:33AM I know.

Alan Clendenin

11:40:34AM We have a motion from Councilwoman Hurtak. Second from Councilman Carlson. All those in favor say aye. Opposed? Ayes have it.

Lynn Hurtak

11:40:42AM Thank you so much. I think this is what this community needs to really talk about this and what we're going to do. We've been talking about it piece meal. I really think having just one meeting will really help people. If there's something else you want to add to it --

Bill Carlson

11:41:00AM Just one clarification. I think we ought to go back to the date of the second stormwater and come forward. 2015, 2016, whenever that was. The public wants to know why maintenance wasn't done and certain things weren't done.

Lynn Hurtak

11:41:18AM Ms. Kopesky, are you okay with that?

Hagar Kopesky

11:41:22AM City Council budget analyst. Yes, discussions with revenue on finance and on. We would want to reconfirm how data is presented in terms of completeness. We're good to go with that.

Alan Clendenin

11:41:34AM We can talk during new business as well.

Lynn Hurtak

11:41:41AM Between this regular meeting and the evening session, if there's anything else anyone wants to add, we can make a motion for it this evening. Also talk to Ms. Kopesky and share your thoughts.

Alan Clendenin

11:41:53AM We'll move on to item 75.

Luis Viera

11:41:58AM It's my intern's last day.

Alan Clendenin

11:42:02AM You have to stand up there in the spotlight.

Luis Viera

11:42:04AM Thank you very much. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.

Alan Clendenin

11:42:08AM State your name.

Luis Viera

11:42:14AM Today is wes's last day at Tampa City Council. He's done a great job. I learned that at fsu you will be roommates with Adam to works with Councilman Carlson, so serendipitous. Not to put you on the spot, if you want to say anything, buddy, you may. Just working around the office has given me a really good eye for what it is to be a public servant. I feel like I learned a lot from the internship and also got the chance to write on things that I became passionate about through writing about them. I didn't think I would be so interested in some of the things that I got the opportunity to write about. I appreciate the opportunity.

11:42:58AM If you want to mention the topic. If we would do anything like what some other city centers have done for an Office of Returning Citizens in Tampa, anything between like writing a potential model that could be a physical office or something as simple as a website. It's something that I found myself pretty passionate about.

Alan Clendenin

11:43:29AM Sounds like a white paper in college.

Luis Viera

11:43:31AM It is. We spoke on it, I guess the day before yesterday, we spoke on it, and you could tell wes's passion and how much he believes in the topic and everything like that. A lot of the information you gave me was very pivotal. I just thank you very much. As I do for my interns, I got you a present, which is funny. When we went out for coffee that day --

Alan Clendenin

11:43:55AM Sure, make the rest of us look bad.

Luis Viera

11:43:55AM Mine are always tailored to the need.

Alan Clendenin

11:43:58AM Hey, Leo, if you are listening to it, don't expect a present.

Luis Viera

11:44:01AM So, we talked about, wes, like I said, is a very big led zeppelin fan. I didn't get you something of led zeppelin, but I mentioned to you the time that jimmy page of led zeppelin tried to make Robert plant jealous and get him into doing a reunion tour with him by going with David coverdale of white snake and formerly of deep purple to do an album. I got you, which is really cool, I think it's a great album. But coverdale-page, which is really -- this is like -- to me this is a great album. Again, it was like a move to get somebody back. But I think you'll like it. David coverdale and jimmy page.

Alan Clendenin

11:44:36AM Are we going to have to de-geek you after leaving this office? I just started collecting records.

Bill Carlson

11:44:50AM I didn't know you were going to be roommates with Adam. Some of the best ideas come from college students and young people. I always say this, alexander the great ruled the world at 23. Of course, he was a prince, but young people are innovating and developing things all over the world. You all may come up with brilliant -- probably will come up with brilliant ideas that will help us as you reflect on your experience here and watch from afar. Please call us if you have ideas. If one of us says no, call the rest of us and see if we support it. Hope you guys come up with something great. When you get ready to come back, my son graduated from fsu a year ago. If you go to the career services department there, they won't have lots of jobs from Tampa. There is a great network in Tampa. We'll connect you, and you can easily get connected, lots of opportunities here, but we need really SMART, motivated people back in Tampa.

Alan Clendenin

11:45:48AM Been a pleasure having you in the office. Really joyful. Always have a smile on your face. Nice having you here. Good luck and we look forward to your return to Tampa.

11:45:59AM Thank you so much. We are moving on to item 75, Councilman Viera, this is your item.

Luis Viera

11:46:04AM Thank you very much. Wes, after this I'll give that to you. Meet you outside, if I may. I'll speak after Ms. Wynn.

Ocea Wynn

11:46:17AM Ocea Wynn, administrator of neighborhood and community affairs. You asked me to come before you today to speak on the disability internship program. Twofold, inquire which departments are accepting interns. The other piece is, if they are not, why. First answer, the workforce partnerships, ADA, t & I, technology and innovation, Parks and Recreation are the departments that have accepted interns. To get to the why. I think the answer to the why is twofold. Or two problems we're solving. One problem is to increase the department participation in the program, and the other problem that needs to be resolved is how to strengthen the current gaps in the program or the weaknesses so that we can realize a sustainable program going forward. I want to make sure that we're not solving one problem and overlooking the other. If we address the increasing the department participation without addressing the current challenges, it will continue to increase frustration. I know there's been frustration from you, Councilman Viera, frustration from the service providers, frustration from staff, and, unfortunately, I can only think that there's frustration from the interns themselves. So we need to fix that. So the first thing we need to do is how do we address the root cause of the problem? How do we get to the bottom of the why? When we understand the why, we can understand how to do the how. How do we fix it? Two years ago, when council and you approved the intellectual internship program, it was approved as a pilot. I think that the program served its purpose since 2023 in terms of a pilot by helping us address what are those issues? What are the feasibilities? How effective is the problem? What are the challenges before we expand this full scale? As a result of that, I'm ready to talk about what we can do going forward. So assessing and hearing the service providers and hearing from the supervisors of the programs, we have identified certain opportunities to improve. The service providers have complained that the whole process is taking too long, that the interns are, if they are properly placed, how do we ensure that they have a continual growth in that position? Internally, some of the concerns that have come forth, both real and perceived from our staff and the supervisors is the high demand on supervision, the pace of some of the work environments for the interns, as well as the lack of staff training specifically for effective support strategies and disability etiquette. Even though we have ADA training, we don't have that training that's tailored to how to help the students grow and thrive in internship environment. So what I did, I researched local government agencies around the nation who have a similar internship program so that we can pull from the best practices. And in doing that, let me first say, I want to talk about how we're similar. The similarities from what a lot of the agencies are doing, most of them are doing and what the City of Tampa is doing, is that we have a paid internship. So thank you so much for that. The organizations or agencies that are looked at were the multnomah county, Oregon, and the uniqueness about this -- the program that they have is they partner with the nonprofit agencies to deliver the program. We don't do that. The Wisconsin board for people with development disabilities, even though this is a state board, they align closely with the local agencies. They use their program to place their interns in state agencies, as well as within local government and disability organizations. A unique feature of this program is not only is the intern able to realize the internship, but if family members who are taking care or who have interns or family members with disabilities may also partake of that as well. The Connecticut department of aging and disability services, there are agency-specific internships. What that means is this. They partner with a hospital or social service agency, and that's all they partner with to provide customer service skills or if it is a hospital, the culinary kitchen type skills. They use a workforce partnership or some type of agency as the liaison. And the city of chicago, they offer broad municipal internship program, and they sponsor the paid internship. Again, they have another entity leading the charge and the cause. There are other agencies, but these are the ones that stood up with having successful programs, and not just having a program. So some of the key observations and takeaways are that most of these local government internships for people with disabilities are embedded in an inclusion program or within a workforce type pathway program so that these interns can learn a pathway or sustainable skills rather than just doing a job. They can develop skills to take them further. Many of these local government agencies, they adopt structured models, as I mentioned, by partnering with a zoo or partnering with a hospital. They all provide, and this is something we don't do. 101 -- one on one coaches, peer mentors or a buddy system. All of them offer training or require training for the people on the receiving end of the internship so they'll know how to conduct disability etiquette or if there's some type of challenging situation, they'll know what avenue or how to navigate those. So I just wanted just to say -- so realizing that we were here and what we deemed as a pilot, we learned all the failures of those opportunities to improve. So based on some of the best practices, I would like to propose that we come back, bring back, implement some of those best practices to improve the output and outcomes of this program going forward.

Alan Clendenin

11:54:23AM Thank you, director. Councilman Viera.

Luis Viera

11:54:25AM Thank you very much. Thank you, Ms. Wynn. You always work really hard and you wear a lot of hats. In fact, I said you wear too many hats, you know what I mean, and always a hard worker. You mentioned that I was frustrated. My patience has worn thin and I'm disillusioned. I'll go through a timeline I think is very important. I understand Rome wasn't built in a day but we've had more than a day and this ain't Rome. There are a lot of challenges I want to highlight with regards to a timeline. It's been three years. I went to a mcdonald's training center event that had a program like this. By golly, wouldn't this be a great thing for the City of Tampa to do. That year I proposed that it pass in the budget in 2022. Passes. Six figure investment. $15 an hour internship of people with special needs, three years ago. Some time passes by, I go, hey, look, let's stay on this. Push a program, can't just throw it on people, okay, thy will be done. You have to have accountability. July of 2023, we get a report to see how it's going and how things are going. That was two years ago. Creative loafing does an article in July of 2023 on the program and the promise is made and things that are going with it, right? So we've got that. And then I go, great, okay, things are moving forward. Things being done and so forth. So we have a meeting then in April of 2024 where we bring out the two interns who are part of this program. During that time, I have a meeting where, again, this is how I work. Before I come out in public and say I'm disillusioned and lack pay. Don't have any more patience and so forth, I have private meetings where I tell folks I'm having these issues. Before I make them public, I want to privately discuss them. That's what I did with a number of people, Chief Bennett and others. I met with them and said, look, we have major issues in the program. Year and a half, two years, and I don't see much of anything. There is a community that is in such critical need of the benefits of this program that we have to move it forward. That's in April of 2024. Here we are. It's been three years since City Council passed this, and here we are. I do think a recitation of the history of the program is important. I asked where the money went for the first couple of years. Went back in the budget last year. Organizations were given the money that can help in this critical field of employment for people with special needs, but the intent of the program was to make the City of Tampa a stakeholder in employing people with intellectual disabilities, and that has not been done. And it will be done because I know you have a wonderful heart. But the thing is that we need to inquire on what departments are going to be. It's not every department can work on it. There is a certain number of interns we can have under the budget. We have to know what departments will work on it. Which ones won't and so forth. We take a look at the two interns who were here. I cite one of them, eric, a nice young man who is with us. I've seen eric grow in that position. Eric is a fine young man. His mom and dad very proud of him. Family proud of him. Eric will be coming to City Council to talk to us about ways in which people with autism can put law enforcement officers on notice whenever they are pulled over that they have autism. You talk about a young man who is working and coming from his heart and who is able to expand his horizons, expand his wings, fulfill his god given potential through the program. We should have had 15, 20 erics by now. Again, my big thing is when a commitment is made on a program like this, right, there's got to eventually be some realization of the commitments made. That's my big issue. Because this isn't just a program. This is a program for people with intellectual disabilities. Some are out there right now, at least about a dozen folks who could have benefited from the program who are probably right now at home. That's why I'm frustrated. Before I come out and say, here, look, here is the timeline. This is why I'm frustrated, I always give people a chance. I don't like to start off from a nine out of ten. That's something very, very important to me. I saw yesterday, couldn't help but notice this, in the City of Tampa social media site, they are talking about the internship program they have here, which is great. Strongly support this. Why in the hell aren't we doing this for people with special needs. That's what I ask. That's what parents are asking. That is the big issue that I'm making inquiries on, which is the City of Tampa has got to be a stakeholder on this issue. We have appropriated the money. The administration said yes. So my issue is, why isn't this going forward three years later? When a commitment is made to me on something, on something so deeply personal to me that is the cause of my life in terms of my oldest brother, intellectually disabled and so forth, I take that very, very seriously. So that's why I'm frustrated on this. A couple of things, the special needs -- I'll make motions on this, if I may now or whenever, Mr. Chairman, the budget for this comes out of the nonprofits. I always thought that's inappropriate because it's internal. It's not supposed to be for nonprofits. It's internal for us. I was going to motion that in this year, these funds, $100,000, come from the general budget. We were told that City Council members, you have $100,000 for nonprofits. By the way, Viera, the nonprofit includes the special needs internship which, by the way, if we funded a billion dollars, we probably still have only two interns. That's part of my frustration. And then I'm also going to motion that starting in September, we have monthly reports, written, written on the number of interns hired and what has been done to fill this program to capacity. I don't like to do things like that. But three years, a thousand days, that is the length of John F. Kennedy's presidency, right, we're still here. That's what I feel we have to do. Unless anybody wishes to speak or anything of that nature, those are the motions I'll be making. Again, this is not about the administration doing this, the administration is doing that and so forth. This is something that is very, very personal to me and that we need to have movement on. Again, you're a wonderful person, a woman of empathy and compassion. Everybody in the administration, but, man, we've got to make this a priority because failure to do so ultimately leaves a lot of people behind who can't afford to be left behind. Thank you.

Alan Clendenin

12:01:06PM Councilman Viera, your request for report will be appropriate for new business at today's council session. For the financial issue, are you talking about 26 money?

Luis Viera

12:01:15PM Yes.

Alan Clendenin

12:01:16PM I think that would be more appropriate to bring to the '26 budget discussion, during those discussions.

Luis Viera

12:01:22PM [Inaudible]

Alan Clendenin

12:01:22PM Councilman Carlson.

Bill Carlson

12:01:27PM I have to say what the reality is on these things. The only way to get -- we can allocate money, but the administration doesn't have to do anything. The only time they move forward is if they can post on social media or send out a press release saying this is the mayor's idea and part of transforming part of Tampa's tomorrow. Whatever motion you make, you ought to make this program the mayor's idea and part of transforming Tampa's tomorrow and then it will get done.

Alan Clendenin

12:01:54PM Any other discussion? I guess you'll sit there for a while because we have a couple other issues.

Bill Carlson

12:02:02PM Thank you. I share council member Viera's sentiment, the great work you do. You have so many different departments. Thank you for personally coming and talking to us and spending so much time on an important program.

Alan Clendenin

12:02:14PM Absolutely. Next item on the agenda is item 76, kiley gardens.

Ocea Wynn

12:02:19PM Administrator of neighborhood and community affairs. Asked to provide a five-minute update on the status of kiley gardens and the parking garage located beneath. I wanted to make sure that council understands the layout of the assets, that there are multiple departments who have an ownership in the garden, in the structure. If you can imagine hamburger menus, bottom layer, middle layer and top layer. For the bottom layer, the parking garage, which we were asked to speak about specifically, that part of the asset belongs to the Parking Division. In the middle layer, we know we have challenges with water intrusion. That's facility management. And the top layer, the park piece, that's Parks and Recreation. So when we talk about making the repairs, we have to make them from bottom up. Fred is here to talk to you about what has transpired with the parking garage piece. Once we get that done, we can go up to the next level and the next level. Fed, oh, you're right here.

Alan Clendenin

12:03:37PM Good morning or good afternoon. Good afternoon, chair. Council member Hurtak, you sent out an e-mail requesting additional information. Not sure if you wanted me to go over the parking numbers now.

Lynn Hurtak

12:03:50PM Sure, if you've got them. Some work going back to 2019. Working with contract admin, we have design aspect and we also have a construction aspect. Going back to 2019 we spent $30,500 to do design services for construction work as far as like high priority repairs. We did those repairs back in 2021. It amounted to 160,000. Going back, we needed to do additional work, so we issued another work order for design services. That was for 77,500. That report, we haven't done any construction work with it. It is amounting to over 1.1 million to do all the repair that came out of that $77,000 design work. We also did on behalf of parks and rec, contracted with contract admin with moore. We spent another 89,500. That's to look at what it will take to repair kiley gardens because the water is coming from the top down to the garage. No matter what repair we do in the garage itself, until kiley gardens gets repaired, parking will continually have to do repair in the garage itself. From the 89,000 design services that came back, it was over 11 million for parks and rec to fully repair kiley gardens. To make it essentially seal it, water proof so that way parking don't have to continue spending money repairing the joints and expansion, concrete slabs and all of that. To my knowledge, parks and rec have not spent any money working on kiley gardens.

Charlie Miranda

12:05:48PM I want to say this is not a new thing. This has been going on at least 20 years, 30 years. The problem is, it's built underground. The cars are underground, really. You'll have seepage. You have the river. Plants have to be watered. Water going through concrete, no matter how strong it is, will leak, sooner or later and that's where we have the problem. I'm not going to say incorrectly done, but it's been not an asset, but feeding something that will always need maintenance because of where it's at. Continuous maintenance in what it needs. Projects in the garage. It's per contract. We'll have to continue repairing whenever we have water repairs that need to be done.

Lynn Hurtak

12:06:43PM That was going to be part of my first question is, who actually owns the garage? The very, very bottom level is owned by the property owner, ben -- the second level is owned by the city under the Parking Division. That is the level directly underneath the park. That is the level that get the water intrusion first. And then we lease that to the property owners.

12:07:15PM We have a contract where we are liable for that $1 million to fix the whole garage?

12:07:27PM The bottom level which we do not own, has there been any look at any work being done there? They are waiting on us to do our work first so that way they can do their part. Until we fix -- let's say the water is coming down from kiley gardens, make it down to the very top level, it will continue going to the bottom level until we fix the other water leak. We've been in communication with the property owner. They engaged the same firm that we have just to have the same folks looking at it. They are waiting for us to do that 1.1 million work, for them to do their repair.

12:08:16PM Wasn't there a significant water intrusion during either helene or milton? They fixed those repairs. Fortunately, for us, it did not reach the top level.

12:08:28PM It basically flooded out.

12:08:33PM Was that simply storm surge or did it come up from the bottom? Basically I'm just sort of asking questions about the feasibility of keeping this garage. The storm surge -- the bottom level is below sea level, essentially.

12:08:50PM Yes. That's been one of my questions.

Alan Clendenin

12:08:57PM Councilman Carlson wanted to speak but I do have a question. Obviously, longtime resident of the City of Tampa. I've watched this park. I know when we -- didn't we already try to reseal this at some point? No work has been done.

12:09:15PM [Inaudible]

Bill Carlson

12:09:17PM As council member Miranda said, I think there have been several attempts over the last 20 or 30 years, right?

12:09:26PM It is a problem. By the way, I'm partly asking this for former City Council member linda saul-sena. She really loves this park and believes in it, as do many people in the community. The real question the community has, first, is the City Planning on scraping the park out? And if the answer is no, what could possibly be a timeline to restore it and does the city have any plans to do that?

Ocea Wynn

12:10:04PM Administrator of neighborhood and community affairs. We're entertaining all options. And once the parks piece is repaired, we are on -- we'll on board a consultant to help us with the best use of the park and the things we can do so we won't create this problem. At this point, I don't have an answer for you, council member Carlson, but we are, in fact, looking at all the options.

Bill Carlson

12:10:33PM Best use could mean that you would scrape it and do something else.

Ocea Wynn

12:10:38PM It could be, if that is what the experts say, yes.

Bill Carlson

12:10:43PM Just to throw on the table, not recently, but two or three years ago, I was approached by different landscape architects who had worked with dan kiley and knew exactly how to restore it and talked about how it could be done. I don't know the procurement process is, but there are people who say they know how to fix the problems and restore it. I don't know the cost. This is within the Downtown CRA also, I think. Maybe it would be a discussion for the Downtown CRA as well. I would encourage you to look at, as you're looking at all options, look at one to restore it and the other one, and then if you have another option. And then let's present the two or three options in a public hearing, let the public weigh in and then we can see what is also in the CRA. There's got to be a holistic fix, but we don't know the price of it. So let's see it. And once and for all, we either fix it or don't fix it. It's been hanging out there for a long, long time before all of us were involved in it. Thank you.

Alan Clendenin

12:11:51PM Councilwoman Hurtak.

Lynn Hurtak

12:11:53PM You said something about $11 million? Itself. That was their estimate like two, three years --

12:12:04PM Two, three years ago.

12:12:06PM Wow. That's doubled now. Now it's 20 million. That's what I thought you said. So there is some estimate already. Everything to make sure the --

12:12:21PM Okay. Thank you.

Alan Clendenin

12:12:22PM This might be to director, has this ever been in the C.I.P., kiley gardens?

Ocea Wynn

12:12:33PM I'll have to look and see. I don't want to speak out of turn, probably shouldn't say anything, but since I've been in this position, I don't think it has. I really would have to verify that.

Alan Clendenin

12:12:47PM One way or another, it's going to have to get resolved. Yeah, sounds like something we'll need to be looking at. Thank you very much. Anybody with further questions? We'll move on. Thank you so much. Next item of business is -- we are now 77. Brandon. Brandon Campbell, interim director of the Mobility department. Just going to go over some of the highlights of our monthly operations report on stormwater that is available on our website, tampa.gov/mobility. You all can see this?

Brandon Campbell

12:13:35PM Okay. As before, we put out our monthly report on the website. I will share some of the highlights and some of the things that have changed from month to month or from one year to the next, just to give an overall picture of where we are on the operations side of the stormwater program. Each month, we list out all of the calls that we have. I wanted to point out that year to date, the first six months of this calendar year, we are at 74% higher call volume compared to the same time frame of 2024. I think last month, I mentioned to you, my expectation would be that delta, sort of normalizes, reduces as we get deeper into the storm season knowing the trajectory and the increase in call volume late in the year last year, but it is a useful metrics for me to look at to see what the interest of the community is and how it has risen with respect to our stormwater system. I will also point out that for the month of June, we are at roughly double the call volume from June of 2024. I think that reflects some significant storm events, including on June 2nd, when we had, it was about two and a half inches of rain over a 20-minute period in South Tampa. For the most part, those calls over the course of June were more than half over flooding issues or improper drainage or backup issues. Again, sort of reflecting what we would anticipate with some of the larger events that happened during the month of June.

Lynn Hurtak

12:15:21PM Just quickly, it says calls for service, April --

Brandon Campbell

12:15:25PM That should say June.

Lynn Hurtak

12:15:27PM I wanted to make sure. Thank you.

Brandon Campbell

12:15:31PM A few highlights from what we did perform through the month of June, we re-graded 3400 linear feet of ditches and mowed 83 miles of ditches. I've mentioned to you all before our mowing cycle on our ditch system is 28 days, basically once a month to get to that. So when we talk about the maintenance of the ditch system, that's twofold. Generally, we re-grade and reestablish that flow line on a smaller percentage of ditches over the course of any given time frame, but we do continue to mow on a regular basis. Our ponds, we repaired 2884 linear feet of fence. That's just fencing that is around those parcels that are part of the stormwater system. Generally, that's done through contract labor, particularly if there are larger repair requests, larger work orders, as I'll show you an example of in just a minute. Our internal crews will do minor repairs on that fence system. With respect to cave-ins, when I came before you last month, we were at about a 50-50 split on how many have been performed by a contract and how many have been performed by our in-house team. That balance has shifted. We did 8 with in-house crews and 26 with contractor crews. That is reflective, a little bit of our shift toward focusing our in-house crews on more routine maintenance, but also getting those contracts that were just getting up to speed over that previous monthly report period and getting them really focused on completing that backlog of cave-in repairs. Again, the report itself goes through all of our accomplishments with just some highlights that I wanted to bring to your attention. As always, calls for service, answer the phone 24/7. Some highlights, again, just visually of what we have done in the month of June, we re-graded the Lemon Street ditch. As you can see with the spider excavator and the "during" picture there. We also have been installing cameras at all of our pump stations. They serve a dual purpose for monitoring of operation and just for security as well. Again, I believe I mentioned last month that we have our in-house crews do some construction and repair on damaged infrastructure as well as shown here with the morrison and grady inlet top repair. Last, as I mentioned, we had done a significant number of fence repairs or a significant quantity of fence repair over the last month. This particular fence is in the Forest Hills area and had been damaged and was mostly maybe completely replaced. Everything in the picture at least was replaced altogether. With that, I know we'll discuss in more depth and more detail at the upcoming budget breakout. But happy to answer any questions that you've got here now.

Lynn Hurtak

12:19:04PM Thank you. Fencing, I was thinking chain-link fence, keeping people out of stormwater ponds. What does the fencing do because we've had some questions about stormwater and today, you know, why do they do fencing?

Brandon Campbell

12:19:23PM I think the answer would be different depending on the facility. I don't know the exact breakdown, but generally our fencing is chain-link fencing. This one in particular happened to be like a split rail or similar type of fencing. That one may have been in place in part for aesthetic purposes. But typically, with our stormwater ponds, if there is a risk that we want to keep people from interacting with, we'll have a chain-link fence in place. The balance is more toward that chain-link style fence.

Lynn Hurtak

12:19:54PM Can you speak to the new equipment that you have added? It looks like that spider. I believe that's new and/or repaired.

Brandon Campbell

12:20:02PM That spider is the one that we have had on hand. I know that there was some discussion about that $12 million budget allocation earlier today. Among the things that we intend to do with the stormwater portion of that allocation is to acquire a new spider so we would have two at that point.

Lynn Hurtak

12:20:26PM Excellent. Just to make sure, you're expecting $3.5 million from us.

Brandon Campbell

12:20:34PM From that budget allocation. I think it's broken down. I thought it was a different number. Whatever is broken down.

Lynn Hurtak

12:20:43PM Initially it was 2.5, plus the 500 we allocated earlier, but we said no, we really want it to be the 3.5.

Brandon Campbell

12:20:51PM I was thinking it was 3. If it's 3.5, we'll find a good use for the additional.

Lynn Hurtak

12:20:57PM Intended to be 3.5. Please let me know if it's not.

Brandon Campbell

12:21:02PM Understood. Thank you.

Lynn Hurtak

12:21:03PM In terms of that, we did give that half a million dollars early. What have you spent it on? How is it going? Give us a little update there.

Brandon Campbell

12:21:13PM I would have to come back to you with a complete breakdown. We do have some emergency contracts in place that we've spoken about in previous meetings. One of the items earlier today was for an additional ditch grading. It was just over half a million. Whether it is a direct correlation with the 500 you're asking about, I'd have to circle back on. That's been our most recent changes to that had 550 thousand dollar or so contract.

Lynn Hurtak

12:21:47PM We noticed multiple contracts coming through. Any contracts outstanding that can expect to come to us to do additional work at this time?

Brandon Campbell

12:21:57PM I am not aware of any pending contracts. Again, I'm happy to look at what our procurement status is on contracts.

Lynn Hurtak

12:22:07PM I appreciate that. That would be great to have the 11th. One more thing, we got a lot of e-mail about a backhoe behind the church of god, along the train tracks, lois and manhattan that showed up, was there for apparently a photo OP and then disappeared. Do you know anything about that?

Brandon Campbell

12:22:35PM I don't know completely details. It happened while I was on leave. My understanding was that we came back and completed the work that had started at that point. Again, happy to circle back if there's something outstanding there that remains to be done, we'll figure out what the timeline is.

Lynn Hurtak

12:22:52PM I appreciate that. Thank you.

Alan Clendenin

12:22:54PM Councilman Carlson.

Bill Carlson

12:22:55PM I would like to say welcome back also. Very happy you are at least in this interim position. Appreciate all the collaboration from you and your team. Where you are citywide, in particular South Tampa where most of the flooding happened, can you tell us what the timeline is for the remainder? How much more time do you all need to go through the rest of the maintenance?

Brandon Campbell

12:23:24PM That is a good question. Let me speak a little less directly to that. I would like to say, failed to mention before, we have a work order map that we have not yet published. It's imminent that it will be on the website. So I think some of these questions and some of the things, appended to the report, I mentioned last month, we have like logs of where we have been. They are maybe not the most user friendly, but we put them there in anticipation of a more user friendly format of presenting to the community. I anticipate that being available -- I know they are meeting even this afternoon.

Bill Carlson

12:24:05PM When the second stormwater tax was pitched in I think 2015 or '16, there was a promise made to the public that maintenance would be done in every area within three years. We've seen maintenance hasn't been done in some places in decades. Does that mean, is it a three-year cycle to do the whole city maintenance or a few months? I know you're putting extra resources. It's not something you can do within a month or two, correct?

Brandon Campbell

12:24:32PM Correct. It is a longer timeline.

Bill Carlson

12:24:34PM Years or months?

Brandon Campbell

12:24:37PM Our service level for ditch grading, and the expectation that we had committed to in that service assessment as far as I understand it, is a seven-year cycle. That is a commitment to inspect and then to respond to what those inspections uncover.

Bill Carlson

12:24:57PM I think especially since you are here now, whether you get the permanent position or not, you've been able to help with a lot of the transparency. Talking about the map coming up. What the public wants to know, they don't want photo OPs, they want to know the truth about what will happen. If it takes seven years or three years, more information give about the timeline, where it goes, what the level is, if you dig a ditch and you dig it by a little bit but go back in a year later and dig it deeper, just the transparency on that would be good instead -- I'm not accusing you of doing this, instead of somebody creating a photo OP, oh, look, we're digging it, but the public knows we didn't dig it deeper. The more transparency the better. Once all of that is done is there going to be a schedule every three years? If somebody's ditch was dug last month, the next time will be three years or seven years? What is the regular schedule?

Brandon Campbell

12:25:58PM That regular schedule should at this point be seven years. I know we are looking at different options for service level expectations and what that might cost and what the implications might be in terms of the assessment itself. Without being able to give you a real detailed answer right now, I can tell you that that investigation is happening and that we will have those details to share in the near term. I would say toward the end of this calendar year.

Bill Carlson

12:26:31PM Two other points which are not in your domain. So I'm talking in general. City Council, right now, it is published when we'll go on our City Council break next summer. This year's schedule was published a year ago. We do that so everybody can plan. It's not just City Council that is gone, the aides are gone and some clerks and others are gone during that time. I was very disappointed to see the day after our last meeting, in effect, the beginning of the break, there was an announcement that the mayor was going to have four meetings, town hall meetings about stormwater around the city. At least I was not informed about it. One of them was in my district. By the way, all of them were scheduled during the time we were gone. So the public sees that as an effort by the mayor to circumvent City Council. Again, I'm not talking to you. I'm just talking in general. It doesn't build trust. If somebody in whatever department was trying to pull a fast one on City Council, it didn't work because the public doesn't agree with it. The second thing is, there are some advisors to the mayor that act like spoiled children sometime. They sent out a memo after I spoke two weeks ago and said, you are liar, liar, liar. You lied. There aren't areas that haven't been cleaned in decades. But we have testimony from the public in many meetings and videos. Even a whole facebook page that has them. I would encourage anybody who is interested me, e-mail me and I'll send you to the facebook page. I can walk you through the environments to show where maintenance has not been done in decades. Instead of pointing fingers and saying liar, liar, liar, what we should be doing is working on how to fix it instead of looking at it as a PR solution, need to look at it as a real solution. I think you and luann and others and jeff and others in the department, are genuinely trying to solve the problem with the resources you have. We need to take the politics and crazy PR stuff out of it and focus on solutions. That's what the public expects. They are terrified houses will flood again and people's financial livelihoods and everything have been turned upside down. What I found in working with staff like you, you all have been incredibly generous in trying to help individuals. All we need to do is be more transparent on the communication. Thank you.

Guido Maniscalco

12:28:56PM A specific question. Habana is paved by the county.

Brandon Campbell

12:29:03PM Habana that would be us.

Guido Maniscalco

12:29:06PM South of Hillsborough.

Brandon Campbell

12:29:08PM Yeah, I believe that is us.

Guido Maniscalco

12:29:12PM The storm drains that are south of Hillsborough, let's say south of Martin Luther King, it was brought to my attention the other day and I live on habana, I shouldn't even say that. Someone might appear because they appear at church and appear at other places. The storm drains they are blocked. There's concrete in front of one storm drain. Others are overgrown. I see this on Armenia Avenue, north-south roads is maintained by the county. Habana, do we maintain the road, the storm drains?

Brandon Campbell

12:29:48PM Yes.

Guido Maniscalco

12:29:50PM I'll send photos to you or the department. There's no available flow. There's broken concrete in front of one. Weeds and grass growing out of another. It's clogging up the system. That was my thing.

Brandon Campbell

12:30:04PM Please do send them my way.

Guido Maniscalco

12:30:07PM Thank you very much. Echo what Councilman Carlson said, we appreciate what you're doing. Your team is going above and beyond. As hurricane season is now here, people are terrified. We have that dedicated funding with that special assessment, which we'll be having a workshop on stormwater further. But just the maintenance can go such a long way. I think that is the biggest. Thank you very much.

Alan Clendenin

12:30:31PM Thank you, Brandon. All my questions have been asked and answered already. Thank you very much.

Brandon Campbell

12:30:36PM Thank you.

Alan Clendenin

12:30:38PM We're moving on to the final item on the agenda, Councilman Viera, item 78.

Luis Viera

12:30:45PM I'll speak after Ms. Feeley.

Abbye Feeley

12:30:49PM Good afternoon, council. Abbye Feeley, administrator for development and economic opportunity. This afternoon, I just wanted to start off by thanking you for your continued commitment to helping our residents in dealing with our recovery from hurricanes helene and milton. These additional funds that were in the financial resolution this morning will give us a level of flexibility that we didn't have when we quickly stood up what we did back in march. You all know we didn't just have a pot of housing program funds that were unrestricted. What we used were SHIP funds. Pulled them together, found what we had and started to stand things up. What we learned from the first program is that really -- if I can step back for just a minute. Those funds were targeted in three buckets. Insurance premium reimbursement, if they had to cash in on their premium, and then we could help with that. Repair reimbursement. So they had to already have made the repairs. And we were reimbursing for that. The last was mortgage assistance. If they were out of their home but trying to keep their home going while they were somewhere else and going from there. Those were the three buckets. I think what we learned from those first funds and we are still in the process of getting those out is that the greatest need is for direct repair. And not reimbursable. Many homeowners haven't been able to make those repairs up front. They are still waiting to make those repairs. And with the funds that were allocated this morning, that can be more of a reality. That being said, I think the question is, what's the timeline? Our approach for these new funds builds on what we have in place already. I don't want to have to set up a whole new program. Because as you know, that takes time. And time is of the essence. Our goal is to learn from what we've been doing since the beginning of April and to move from there. The other thing I want to mention is in looking at this, I also looked at other local governments. Nobody has put out funds, no one but us. And part of that, and I know you often say it, we've been building the plane as we've been flying it. Jumped into action, tried to figure it out. Learn from that. We do want to continue the three buckets of assistance that we have, now that we have funds that allow us to go beyond the 80% AMI because we have people already in the hopper that were denied that. We also have people who didn't apply, because they knew what the 80% limit was. We'll look at that. How do we broaden that net on those three buckets, but then the second part would be how do we use our existing home repair and rehabilitation program. I still like to call it owner occupied rehab because that is a little easier. How do we expand that to have just a storm damage element? In doing that, clearly we've already been thinking about how are we using the funds? But I do need a few weeks to get the nuts and bolts of that together for you. I can't tell you those funds are going out the door tomorrow. What I can tell you is like I just did, the city of st. petersburg, pinellas, they are all waiting on their cdbgr. We haven't done that. We have been able to help approximately 60 households, just close to $600,000 of the 3.2 million. So that has been going out under those SHIP funds. We are going to be finishing out the applications that are in there. We have had not much success with the third party hired to do that. Starting next week, we're going to have our own application, but that is still under those first set of SHIP funds. I don't want to get that confused with where we are today. But I've been working with the team to say, let's make it through the last tranche of applications, let's run it ourselves, and let's make sure that everyone who was in that program is getting that fair shake. I think today is about five months and something since we started all this. I wanted to share with you, too, we've helped real people. We had a family who had a tree crash into their teen daughter's bedroom. They were able to get $20,000 to reimburse them for the repairs they had made. We had another family whose house flooded. They tried to get their insurance. They couldn't. So they got $11,000 to put in all new flooring and repair their home. We are helping real people and working through that. The other part of this is, having been out with the construction permitting side of the house and dealing with people or trying to get permits, having been out with the housing side of the house, we truly understand how important this is for our community and the emotions that are running high out there in getting this done. If I can have a few weeks, I would like to bring you back a more formal timeline. I know you just passed this today. We have already been thinking about it. As I said, when we stood the other one up, we really didn't know how it would go, I want to have nuts and bolts put together so that the community can have reasonable expectations about this next tranche of funding.

Alan Clendenin

12:36:29PM Councilman Viera, Councilman Maniscalco, Councilwoman Hurtak.

Luis Viera

12:36:32PM Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Thank you, Abbye, for your hard work, working with you on the first set of funds, you've always done a great job. Our hands were tied because of state mandates, so I appreciate you. And this is going to be $2 million that will be more liberal allocated to middle class and working class families. I would be remiss if I didn't thank Councilwoman Hurtak as well. I was Planning on bringing this up as a little bit over a million dollars. She did an outline for 1.8 million. You upped it up to 2 million. That's great. Everybody working together on this. I think that's very, very important. It's good to talk about these families and you talked about some of the families that have benefited. Unfortunately, again, the first round of funds were very restricted because of state mandates. I've talked to so many families. One of the things that you really glean from this discussion and it's something that I think came true with the Florida mandates, is how a lot of people really do believe that government doesn't care about them, and that government is not going to be there for the working class. Government is not going to be there for the middle class, and so god willing, these funds can help those people who have taken the worst hits. I went on Saturday to visit a nice woman. We had the town hall at Forest Hills and a woman came up to me and she was just delirious, as she should be. Lost her home. Works at walmart. Very hardworking woman. I always remembered her face. I think over the last few months what happened. Never saw her and then when I went in on the house on Saturday, it was her. She didn't apparently qualify for the first round. A woman who works nights at walmart, very good woman, hard-worker, owns her own home in Forest Hills and we've got to make sure we're there for those folks. I think that's something very, very important. Let me ask you, if I may, with regards to income thresholds, I assume that's something you'll be working on, correct?

Abbye Feeley

12:38:36PM I did bring the income limit chart with me because I want to say, whenever we've taken housing program funds, we've always used them to close the gap between the 80, which is where state and federal funds usually stop up to the 140. That would be our anticipation here as well. It's not going to be for unrestricted income, but I just wanted to be clear on that. So, yes, we would go up to the 140 as many of our programs do and our hpf, housing program funds, have been able to supplement.

Luis Viera

12:39:18PM It is important for folks to see that. In terms of the pace for this, we can motion, do you think you need a month or so?

Abbye Feeley

12:39:28PM Yes. If I could come back on September 18, if that would be okay. Or I can put in a written report for the 18th. Whichever you wish.

Luis Viera

12:39:38PM Wonderful. Final question I have, mortgage assistance, the potential beneficiaries, do they need to be delinquent on their mortgage to benefit?

Abbye Feeley

12:39:51PM I believe that is how that has been -- yes, they had to be, I think, 30 days, just 30 days in arrears for us to assist.

Luis Viera

12:40:00PM As we've discussed before, I'd hate to mandate that somebody have their credit shattered to benefit. There are people I know who have taken on second jobs, additional shifts and so forth to be able to benefit from this. I would urge that, which is to have some potential reformation of that. I wouldn't want people delinquent on their mortgage because there are people who have taken extra jobs to keep that going. That's it. Thank you very much. Everybody working together on this. By the way, the fact that no other local government has done this, that's terrible. I did that the funds coming in are a lot more, but we need to do everything we can to help people now. If we provide a down payment on the larger thing, milton happened in October of 2024. We're nine, ten months since then. Gosh, local governments spend money so on many things and for no other government to be putting a million or two million to something like this. I think it's good for the City of Tampa to promote that and saying that we're trying to put people first and to be there for everybody, for the middle class, working class, those working hard trying to get into the working class, I think that's good. Thank you. Appreciate you.

Alan Clendenin

12:41:24PM Councilman Maniscalco.

Guido Maniscalco

12:41:26PM That is a good point about having to be delinquent on their mortgage in order to qualify. It's not just about their credit, there might be a late fee and it's wasted money that the banks are going to take. That's number one. Number two, you just mentioned it now, the fact that we're the only people that do this, the only municipality is good because it shows we are a compassionate city. I hope it sets an example. Other cities might be waiting for other funding, but we jumped right on it. We were devastated and many neighborhoods were affected and we hit the ground running on it. And we've helped, as you mentioned, you call it owner occupied rehab, whatever name you want to put it. You gave specific examples of they were reimbursed. They were able to be helped. It could be 3,000. It could be a thousand. Could be 10,000. It's make or break for a lot of people. We've been able to step up to the plate and do it, and I think it is a very good thing. Thank you very much.

Alan Clendenin

12:42:25PM Councilwoman Hurtak.

Lynn Hurtak

12:42:31PM Thank you for all of your hard work on this and your team. The fact that you all will be stepping up and taking over to do this last tranche is commendable. I do have to ask, the third party that we partnered with, they obviously could not keep their end of the deal. Do we still have to pay them everything we said we would pay them or be able to claw some of that money back to help families?

Abbye Feeley

12:42:59PM I'm working with Ms. Johns to take a look at that right now.

Lynn Hurtak

12:43:03PM I appreciate that. That's one of those things -- I mean, that's truly despicable to take money from us to help people and not be able to do it. I appreciate that. When you have an update, feel free to e-mail us, if not come and let us know. I think even during administrator update, I think it's one of those things saying, hey, we got a hundred thousand dollars back and that will be able to help five more families. That is something. I just want to say thank you for that because I think that's really important. When someone doesn't come through, it's important that we don't say, enh, you can just keep the money. It's too important. I also want to thank the administration for making that 1.8 a solid 2 million. I think that's really phenomenal. Again, that's many more families to help. My only other suggestion is, as Councilman Viera alluded to earlier, the community meetings, maybe it might be a nice idea to do like another meeting up in North Tampa and another meeting in South Tampa. Now that these funds are new. Once you have a system, once you have something that you are ready to stand up, maybe to plan some of those meetings, one in each area, just so people can get help. People can understand, you can have a giant board with those AMIs. Just anything like that, that the community can then come, especially if we still have all those funds. That way people can really come and get that assistance right there. I know that I would be willing to come and help out. So I think if you let council Know about it, we would show up ourselves. Please just consider that. I think the public would be really thankful to be able to come out and do that. Again, it would be another feather in Tampa's cap as being the folks who put over $5 million into helping their citizens recover. I just, again, want to thank you and your team and the whole administration for finding that first 3.2 million. It's just a wonderful benefit.

Alan Clendenin

12:45:10PM Councilman Carlson and then we'll move on to new business.

Bill Carlson

12:45:15PM Thank you, also, for what you're doing. Thank you to council member Viera for proposing this idea. I think the reason why we're probably the only one that did it is because it is such a huge problem. In announcing something like this sets high expectation that we can solve a larger problem. There are so many people that have so many needs. I had a lot of concerns in the beginning that we would be overwhelmed with requests. Part of the reason is that as you design in the beginning, it had limitations. But I think it seems like it's worked out okay. It's a symbolic gesture. Also will help a lot of families. Unfortunately, the city does not have enough money to solve everybody's issues. FEMA should have done that. In my opinion, FEMA was horribly mismanaged. I don't know if they fixed the problems yet. But I had so many people crying and upset. They lost everything. I went to kathy castor's office. They went to laura lee's office. They went to everybody they could, and FEMA just didn't help them. Just with basic things. Some people had success, but many did not. That was an enormous failure that should have been resolved. The main thing I want to say is that in South Tampa, Port Tampa, South of Gandy, all the way near the original port, all the way down by macdill, there were many families that were hit. Many of those families people think everyone is South Tampa is rich. Many the families are at or below poverty line. Many of them have owned their homes through multiple generations. There was an historic black community with the longshoremen but also white families and Hispanic families in that area. They didn't have insurance because they owned their homes completely. They didn't have a mortgage. I somehow missed this, if there is a requirement that you have to own your own home, have a mortgage and default on it, that's missing all these families. You know there's one case in particular, I just saw the lady again last night. She had a hundred-year-old historic home. Her home flooded. She lost 50,000 in equipment for her disabled son. She had to carry him up in the rain and storm to the third floor and she got nothing from nobody. We don't have to talk about the case. I think you know what I'm talking about. I hope we can resolve her issue to some extent because that is a case. Now she found out her son has cancer. We need to try to help the families as much as we can. I appreciate what you all are doing.

Abbye Feeley

12:47:57PM I did want to clarify, you don't have to have a mortgage on your home to get the funds. We had money if you were delinquent on your mortgage, but you don't have to have a mortgage. You can own it outright. It does have to be homesteaded clearly.

Alan Clendenin

12:48:13PM That is the end of our business. We are moving on to new business. Councilman Carlson.

Bill Carlson

12:48:24PM Can I just mention, I have a couple of questions. Zion cemetery, does somebody have a motion regarding that?

Guido Maniscalco

12:48:33PM Not a motion, but it was even reported in the news that the ball is rolling. I don't know if there are two properties in question, private property owners. The administration might be figuring it out. I don't know for sure. There was something mentioned in the news a few weeks ago, but I don't know the status of it. I'm not making any motion.

Bill Carlson

12:48:53PM It's not in my district, so I haven't made a motion on it but, of course, I care about it and we have all voted to help zion. If somebody else makes a motion, happy to support them or any of the folks who spoke this morning, if you have a proposal for a specific motion, I'm happy to talk to you. The Racial Reconciliation Committee. Council member Viera, you're the one who has created that and led it. And they are asking in the public that we extend their time. Are you going to make a motion?

Luis Viera

12:49:21PM Yes, sir. [Inaudible]

Bill Carlson

12:49:25PM I'll let you go with that. I don't want to step on anybody's toes. Yellow jackets keep getting mentioned, somebody making a motion in that regard?

Lynn Hurtak

12:49:34PM I am not making a motion but I did speak to Chief Bennett about it and he said there was money in the budget. I think that's something we should bring up at the first budget meeting, August 4. The money for this year is for Planning is what I was told. Again, that's something we could ask about specifically during the General Fund discussion, which will be the 4th.

Bill Carlson

12:50:00PM The only motion I would like to make, can we put things on October 30th workshop or is that a single issue? I would like to make a motion to have the discussion about the possibility of regulating pickleball courts.

Lynn Hurtak

12:50:20PM I have a motion coming up dealing with that right now.

Bill Carlson

12:50:23PM I'll let you do it. I'm hearing a lot of complaints because people are putting pickleball courts in backyards and they are regulated the same way as tennis courts.

Lynn Hurtak

12:50:32PM I have a motion for that.

Alan Clendenin

12:50:37PM I haven't gotten those e-mails.

Luis Viera

12:50:40PM A couple of quick ones. I met a very nice woman named Betty Coleman, actually the first African American female firefighter for Tampa Fire Rescue. I went to this retiree luncheon and had the pleasure of meeting her. Next year will be 45 years since she began serving with Tampa Fire Rescue. January 8 of next year, present a commendation to her at Tampa City Council. It's good for the rules. January, if that's okay.

Alan Clendenin

12:51:12PM Motion from Councilman Viera. Second from Councilman Maniscalco. All those in favor, aye. Opposed? Ayes have it unanimously.

Luis Viera

12:51:20PM Thank you, council. The next, as I indicated in my report, starting in September, again, we'll give them time, I want to have a written report from the administration on the special needs internship program, including the number of individuals who are in the program and all efforts that they are making to spend the money that we have appropriated.

Alan Clendenin

12:51:38PM Motion from Councilman Viera. Second from Councilwoman Hurtak. All those in favor, aye. Opposed. Ayes have it.

Luis Viera

12:51:44PM Thank you. And this is my motion is, because I want to make sure because I may not be here on that august meeting. So I do want to bring this up, which is simply a written memo -- strike that, request for written memo from the administration to be returned on August 7 on their position on appropriating the funds for the special needs program from the social action section to the general budget. So the request that I got was this, which is, you have $100,000 you can spend on this. The internship is a hundred thousand dollars, and it's not in the general budget, that in effect could wipe it out. It is just a memo. Not going to take up any council time, at least we can maybe dispose of that and save us time at those hearings, if I may.

Alan Clendenin

12:52:38PM Motion from Councilman Viera. Mr. Shelby.

Martin Shelby

12:52:42PM To recognize it is a one-week motion.

Luis Viera

12:52:45PM Okay.

Lynn Hurtak

12:52:48PM Why don't you have it at the 11th budget hearing? Because if it is written, you'll still see it.

Luis Viera

12:52:56PM Written. Good idea. It's a motion to inquire with administration on their position on moving the funding for the special needs internship program from the social action to the general budget on that date, August 11. Written. Written.

Alan Clendenin

12:53:15PM Motion from Councilman Viera. Second from Councilman Maniscalco. All those in favor say aye. Opposed? Ayes have it.

Luis Viera

12:53:21PM Last one, have Ms. Feeley come on September 8 to report on the status of the $2 million in housing assistance, including procedure. 18. I misheard.

Alan Clendenin

12:53:36PM Motion for Ms. Feeley to return on September 18 from Councilman Viera. Second from Councilman Maniscalco. All those in favor, aye. Opposed? Ayes have it. Councilwoman Hurtak.

The clerk

12:53:45PM [Inaudible]

12:54:03PM Update on special needs internship.

Lynn Hurtak

12:54:06PM August 11 is a budget workshop. I think it was August 18. No, you said September.

Alan Clendenin

12:54:19PM You said September.

Luis Viera

12:54:22PM Starting in September.

Lynn Hurtak

12:54:31PM Okay. I have these written for you, Suling. Motion for the mayor's Hispanic heritage committee. I made a motion and it was incorrect date. I motion for the mayor's Hispanic heritage committee to give a five-minute presentation on September 25th, 2025, during the City Council workshop under commendations and presentations. It was previously scheduled for October 2, but we do not have a meeting that day.

Alan Clendenin

12:54:56PM Motion from Councilwoman Hurtak. Second from Councilman Maniscalco. All those in favor say aye. Opposed? Ayes have it.

Lynn Hurtak

12:55:02PM I have worked with both legal and Ms. Feeley and her department on the pickleball question because I've been hearing about it multiple places as well. So this is what we came up with. They have all agreed to this. I move to have legal consult with Development Coordination and come back on October 9, 2025, for an in-person staff report on any existing codes, provisions, or regulations that affect the city's ability to regulate pickleball courts in residential neighborhoods, include land rights, sb 180, lighting, noise, and TPD noise complaint enforcement.

Bill Carlson

12:55:42PM Could you add, please, to look at the ordinances that other cities have. Apparently other cities regulate it.

Lynn Hurtak

12:55:48PM Okay. Look at other Florida city regulations.

Alan Clendenin

12:55:55PM Can you restate the motion?

Lynn Hurtak

12:56:00PM I am just adding to also look --

Alan Clendenin

12:56:02PM Just for the record clarification.

Lynn Hurtak

12:56:04PM I have it written.

Alan Clendenin

12:56:05PM Motion from Councilwoman Hurtak. A second from Councilman Carlson. All those in favor say aye? Hope you guys have special security from that mafia that represents the pickleball people.

Bill Carlson

12:56:20PM My son started the pickleball group at plant. He doesn't want any regulation.

Alan Clendenin

12:56:28PM It is a cult. Councilman Maniscalco.

Guido Maniscalco

12:56:31PM Wish my mom a belated happy birthday.

Alan Clendenin

12:56:35PM Happy birthday. You look fabulous. I would like to -- two things. One, you probably saw the press about what's happening at the pet resource center for Hillsborough county. I know it's not city. It's still our community. They resolved some issues. Lot of pets in and out the doors. Still have needs. If you have the ability, even small donations like blankets, apple sauce because they make pup sickles. Freeze them to keep the dogs cold. If you want to call them. They also have an amazon wish list. If you call them, they'll give you a link to the amazon wish list. That is an ongoing thing to help the animals out there. 813-301-7387. Needs are great. Resources are few. I'm sure they would appreciate anything you can do. Councilwoman Hurtak.

Lynn Hurtak

12:57:32PM Can you just explain what the issue is? You said many people have heard, but what is the issue?

Alan Clendenin

12:57:39PM They don't have air conditioning in the kennels out there. With the record heat and heat index, it was really detrimental to the health and well-being of the animals that they have incarcerated at the facilities waiting for homes. Thankfully, because of the press that was related to this issue, I did get a text message. They were able to home -- I'll give you the statistics -- they had 33 adoptions, five returned owners and 11 fosters and rescue transfers. Dozens of dogs have left to comfortable homes. I almost tear up and get goose bumps when I read this. Still a lot of dogs out there looking for homes. And their needs are things like broth, pumpkin for the dogs to eat, apple sauce, soft dog treats, towels and sheets. Again, they have an amazon wish list as well. If you call, they have the link. I have the link, too, for anybody who has access to me, I can share the link with you.

Lynn Hurtak

12:58:44PM I think Mr. Viera also has an announcement about tomorrow night?

Alan Clendenin

12:58:51PM I have one more thing. Sitting in the audience, in our vast audience of millions, I have my aide, tim heberlein. He just came back from lunch and cruising the caribbean. Thank you kelly, Lynn Hurtak's aide for assisting me and darlene while he was absent. It was flawless. Kelly always goes above and beyond. She does. Sitting next to tim, if you recognize Leo molina. He's been the intern in our office. I just wanted to say, one, recognize Leo -- he's worked. Tim has been cracking the whip. He's been really working. He arranged a lot of the meetings that I've had with the constituents. Our town halls and me getting out into the neighborhood associations and doing that arrangement, which is not an easy job. He's really been working it. It's been a joy having him in the office. It's interesting, because he's not in college, but he's going to be on his way. Leo, would you like to talk and tell us about your experience at city hall and what your plans are? It's been an honor working here. Last time I came up and said my thoughts on it, working in local politics. I know hurricane season is coming up, kind of glad work there, you know.

1:00:25PM Where are you going? You know. Back to school shopping. Then big plans are apply to colleges. Major in political science. Public service is something that working here, something that interest me. I'll look into it, you know.

1:00:47PM Very nice. Don't be a stranger. I said your name. You need to say your name for the record.

1:00:57PM It's been a pleasure having you in the office. Tim has enjoyed your company. We enjoyed your meaningful assistance to the office. Very good. Thank you very much. Appreciate it. Thank you.

Luis Viera

1:01:09PM Thank you, Councilwoman Hurtak. Tomorrow evening we're having annual karaoke smack-down battle at Forest Hills at the Babe Zaharias. It begins at 6:00 and always a great time. Something that I was going to suggest was is that Councilman Carlson, the pba is doing fund-raising for the family of the officer that was shot, that we could have like a bowl there, jar, for folks to give money or contribute online. I'm not good with technology. It's always a good time in everything. And Councilman Maniscalco is actually a good singer. You are. You're pretty good. You have a lovely voice. It's always a good time.

Alan Clendenin

1:01:51PM Councilwoman Hurtak.

Lynn Hurtak

1:01:52PM Along with that, is there maybe a way to collect for the pet resource center? Pumpkin, apple sauce, a qr code.

Alan Clendenin

1:02:05PM Anybody who wants to bring any of that stuff, we'll collect it and make sure it gets to the proper place. You're correct, Councilman Maniscalco is an outstanding singer. On the other end of the spectrum is Councilman Luis Viera. I would suggest bringing ear plugs -- earmuffs or drink heavily.

Bill Carlson

1:02:29PM I think also we ought to have a special called workshop on decorum to try to convince the chair to call us by our correct names. [ laughter ] he calls you Miranda and calls Miranda --

Alan Clendenin

1:02:46PM Good luck with that.

Lynn Hurtak

1:02:47PM I don't know -- can you -- calls me councilman.

Alan Clendenin

1:02:53PM In some places that's protocol. If it makes you feel any better, I still call my daughter my sister's name, I call my son -- yeah, I'm not good at it. Lawyer Shelby.

Martin Shelby

1:03:07PM Just a reminder for the public, I know council knows this, but you have a 5:01 meeting tonight. But you have the first of two special called budget workshops. The next time the City Council Will be meeting after tonight's meeting will be Monday the 4th of August at 1 p.m. here. And then you have the second budget special call workshop at 9 a.m., and you set the stormwater discussion relative to the budget at 5:01. I want the public to be aware of that. After tonight, you will be back here on Monday.

Guido Maniscalco

1:03:48PM Move to receive and file.

Alan Clendenin

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