Evening Session — September 24, 2026 FINAL

Alan Clendenin

5:05:37PM Good evening, everybody. Welcome to Tampa City Council. After dark. That's right. I would like to call this meeting to order and ask the clerk to call the roll please.

Charlie Miranda

5:05:48PM Here.

Guido Maniscalco

5:05:48PM Here.

Lynn Hurtak

5:05:50PM Here.

Naya Young

5:05:51PM Here. Carlson?

Bill Carlson

5:05:54PM Here.

Alan Clendenin

5:05:55PM Here.

The clerk

5:05:55PM We have a physical quorum.

Alan Clendenin

5:05:56PM A couple of announcements. Councilman Viera will be joining us virtually. He's on. That's good.

Guido Maniscalco

5:06:06PM Motion to allow --

Alan Clendenin

5:06:07PM Motion from Councilman Maniscalco. Second from councilman woman Hurtak to allow Viera to participate virtually. Hope you are feeling better. All in favor aye. I will be leaving early this evening -- Councilman Viera, you want to say something?

Luis Viera

5:06:28PM Can you hear me?

Alan Clendenin

5:06:29PM We can, yes. Unfortunately, we can see you, too. [ laughter ] I'm going to be leaving early this evening as well. It will be after item number 3, so sometime this evening. I have to drive to naples for a meeting tomorrow for Florida league of cities for tomorrow and Saturday. Just fyi, but we will have a quorum. Councilwoman Hurtak, did you want to say something?

Lynn Hurtak

5:06:56PM Yes. For those of you who know and those of you who don't, I am undergoing chemo for breast cancer right now. I tend to get tired in the evening. I'm going to try, if I need to lay down, I'll be behind here in our conference room. But there is a big television on and I'll be able to watch. I'm hoping if I have to do that, it won't be for very long. But occasionally I will need to do that. Any person or applicant that has a problem with that, please say something when you get up to speak and then I will try to stay in chambers for that one. But I'll also let you know when I'm going back. This is all new to all of us, we're kind of testing stuff out tonight. I appreciate your understanding.

Alan Clendenin

5:07:40PM She can hear and monitor the public hearing and come back out to vote if she needs to vote. She will be fully engaged. Just fyi. Mr. Collins, I see you are there to help clear the agenda.

Danny Collins

5:07:50PM Danny Collins with the Planning Commission staff. I have a few items we need to move on the agenda. First is item 6. Ta/cpa 26-04. Property located at 2410 North Boulevard. The applicant is requesting a continuance to January 28, 2027 public hearing.

Alan Clendenin

5:08:11PM Motion from Councilman Maniscalco. A second from Councilman Miranda.

Lynn Hurtak

5:08:16PM We have to do the address, time and everything.

Alan Clendenin

5:08:19PM We'll announce it when we get the vote --

Guido Maniscalco

5:08:22PM I move to continue item 6 to January 28, 2027, 5:01 p.m., 315 East Kennedy Boulevard, Tampa, Florida, 33602.

Alan Clendenin

5:08:31PM I have a motion from Councilman Maniscalco. Second from Councilwoman Hurtak. All those in favor say aye. Opposed? Ayes have it. Thank you.

Danny Collins

5:08:39PM Our next item is item number 7. Ta/cpa 26-06. This is for the property located at 1860 East Fowler Avenue. This application is running concurrently with an annexation application that is scheduled for November and therefore can't move forward tonight. The applicant has requested a continuance to the December 3, 2026 public hearing.

Guido Maniscalco

5:09:03PM Move to continue item ta/cpa 26-06 to the December 3rd, 2026 public hearing, 5:01 p.m., 315 East Kennedy Boulevard, Tampa, Florida, 33602.

Alan Clendenin

5:09:15PM I have a motion from Councilman Maniscalco. Second from Councilman Miranda. All in favor aye. Opposed? Ayes have it. Anything else? Leo Debardeleben, Development Coordination. Item number 13, file ab2-26-03, needs to be removed from the agenda.

5:09:36PM Do you need anything else on the record?

5:09:41PM Motion from Councilman Maniscalco. Second from Miranda to remove item 13 from the agenda. All in favor, aye. Ayes have it. Thank you.

5:09:53PM We just removed it from the agenda. Something you'll deal with staff. December 3rd, it will come back.

5:10:05PM Very good. We'll look forward seeing that on the agenda based on normal submission.

5:10:09PM Anything else? Motion to approve the agenda from Councilwoman Hurtak. A second from Councilman Maniscalco. All those in favor say aye. Opposed? Ayes have it. Without further ado, item number 1, let's talk brownfields. How exciting. Beth Le.

The clerk

5:10:36PM [Inaudible]

Alan Clendenin

5:10:47PM Councilwoman Hurtak.

Lynn Hurtak

5:10:47PM Motion to open all public hearings.

Alan Clendenin

5:10:49PM Motion to open the public hearings from Councilwoman Hurtak. Second from Councilman Maniscalco. All in favor aye. Opposed? Ayes have it. Thank you. These are non-quasi-judicial. Do you not have to be sworn in. Start with your name. Beth Le with the city attorney's office. This is the second and final public hearing for proposed Brownfield Area designation of a property consisting of a parcel generally located at the northeast intersection of north 46th street and East Fletcher Avenue. Ace Fletcher LLC is requesting designation of the property as Brownfield Area to assist in the assessment and remediation of environmental impacts that may exist on the property. Details of this designation have been outlined in a staff report for the fletcher district green reuse site proposed Brownfield Area which is available for public review online and at the city clerk's office. City staff have determined that all statutory and public notice requirements have been met and recommend that the council approve this designation. At the conclusion of this public hearing, staff requests council to pass a resolution designating the fletcher district green reuse site as a Brownfield Area as specified in chapter 376 of Florida statutes. A representative for the applicant is also available for any questions during this public hearing.

5:12:04PM Thank you. Does council have any questions. Hearing none, anybody in the public wishing to speak to item 1? Motion to close from Councilman Miranda, second from Councilman Maniscalco. All in favor aye. Opposed? Ayes have it.

Charlie Miranda

5:12:15PM Move the resolution.

Alan Clendenin

5:12:17PM Motion from Councilman Miranda to move the resolution for number 1. Second from Councilman Maniscalco. Roll call vote, please.

Guido Maniscalco

5:12:25PM Yes.

Lynn Hurtak

5:12:27PM Yes.

Naya Young

5:12:28PM Yes.

Luis Viera

5:12:30PM Yes.

Bill Carlson

5:12:31PM Yes.

Charlie Miranda

5:12:33PM Yes.

Alan Clendenin

5:12:33PM Yes.

The clerk

5:12:36PM Motion carried unanimously.

Alan Clendenin

5:12:37PM Thank you. Item number 2. Robles park. This is the second and final public hearing for proposed Brownfield Area designation of a property consisting of three adjoining parcels that are generally located at 3601 North Central Avenue, 3814 North Central Avenue, and 501 East Lake Avenue. Robles park LLC and open space acquisitions LLC are requesting this designation of these properties as a Brownfield Area to assist in the assessment and remediation of environmental impacts that may exist on-site. Details of the designation have been outlined in the staff report for the Robles park proposed Brownfield Area designation which is available for public review online and at the city clerk's office. City staff have determined that all statutory and public notice requirements have been met and recommend that council approve this designation. At the conclusion of this second public hearing, staff requests council to pass a resolution designating Robles park as a Brownfield Area as specified in chapter 376 of the Florida statute. A representative for the applicant is available for questions during this public hearing.

5:13:47PM Does council have any questions? Hearing none, anybody in the public wish to speak to item 2. Motion to close from Councilwoman Hurtak. Second from Councilman Miranda. All in favor aye, opposed? Ayes have it. I have a motion to move the resolution for item 2 from Councilman Maniscalco. Second from Miranda. Roll call, please.

Lynn Hurtak

5:14:05PM Yes.

Naya Young

5:14:06PM Yes.

Luis Viera

5:14:07PM Yes.

Bill Carlson

5:14:09PM Yes.

Charlie Miranda

5:14:09PM Yes.

Guido Maniscalco

5:14:10PM Yes.

Alan Clendenin

5:14:11PM Yes.

The clerk

5:14:12PM Motion carried unanimously.

Alan Clendenin

5:14:14PM Thank you. Very good. Have a good night. Item number 3. Quinn Steele, Planning Commission staff. I should have a presentation for CCTV.

5:14:34PM Planning Commission staff, on the council monitors, I need to be able to see Councilman Viera, please. I'm sorry. CC -- did I say Planning Commission? CCTV. Thank you so much. I appreciate it. Go ahead.

Quinn Steele

5:14:49PM Quinn Steele, Planning Commission staff. Ta/cpa 26-05, which is a map amendment for 3541 North Boulevard. The request before you is privately initiated and small scale covering approximately 1.34 acres. The request is to go from public/semi-public to the residential 3 future land use designation. Here is a general location map. The subject site is located within the central Tampa Planning district, the Tampa Heights urban village and the Tampa Heights neighborhood. Here is an aerial photo of the subject site which is outlined in yellow along North Boulevard. Historically, the property was owned by the City of Tampa and was sold to the greater showmen's association in 1971. The parcel is currently under private ownership. Properties east of the red dashed lines are within the Tampa Heights urban village, while properties west of the line are outside of the urban village and primarily developed with single-family detached homes. Immediately north of the site is the showmen's rest cemetery. While beth Israel cemetery and woodlawn cemetery are located to the east and south. There is a Place of Religious Assembly located at the southern portion of the block. Additional, calvin Taylor park is located to the northeast and plymouth playground is located to the southeast. This is a photo looking west on the subject site towards North Boulevard. A photo looking south at the subject site, North Boulevard is out of frame to the right. The showmen's rest cemetery is behind the camera. Looking east at the subject site in the adjacent showmen's rest cemetery from North Boulevard, looking across West North Boulevard from the subject site, and looking on west North Indiana Avenue, which is one block north of the subject site. This map shows the adopted future land use as public/semi-public in blue. Showmen's rest cemetery and beth Israel cemetery to the north and east as well as the church to the south are also designated public/semi-public. Woodlawn cemetery as well as calvin Taylor park and plymouth playground are designated recreation open space in green. Properties of West North Boulevard are primarily designated residential 10. This map shows the proposed future land use as residential 3 in yellow. R 3 is one of the lowest residential density categories in the comprehensive plan at a maximum density of three dwelling units per acre. Under the existing public/semi-public designation there are no defined maximums for residential or nonresidential development. It is determined by compatibility with the surrounding area. Under the proposed r-3 designation, the site can be considered for up to four dwelling units, neighborhood, office and commercial uses would not be permitted, although certain uses such as day cares and churches could be considered at a maximum of just over 20,000 square feet. The proposed amendment would introduce a low density residential development pattern and public, quasi-public uses would no longer be required on the site. We sent this out for agency review, and the City of Tampa had an objection. City staff finds that the long-term Planning vision of the city favors a more conservative, thoughtful approach to the development around cemetery uses, which is better accommodated under the adopted p/sp future land use designation. While formulating a recommendation, Planning Commission staff reviews all related policies regarding the proposed request as discussed in the staff report, applicant submitted a dpr study that concluded that graves are not likely present on the subject site. If any potential burial resources are identified in the future, they would be addressed through subsequent development review and permitting processes. Planning Commission found this request consistent with the following objectives and policies of the comprehensive plan. First compatibility with the surrounding area. The proposed r 3 designation would introduce a low density residential development pattern that is lower density than the surrounding r-10 designation. This request would also promote infill development by providing an opportunity for residential development on undeveloped parcel within the Tampa Heights urban village. Lastly ensuring an adequate supply of housing, the proposed amendment would support additional housing opportunities by allowing limited residential development at a maximum density of three dwelling units per acre. Planning Commission recommends that the proposed map amendment be found consistent with the goals, objectives, and policies of the Tampa Comprehensive Plan, and I'm available for any questions.

Alan Clendenin

5:19:10PM Councilwoman Hurtak.

Lynn Hurtak

5:19:12PM Are there any parcels within a mile that are r-3?

Quinn Steele

5:19:18PM It's mostly in the New Tampa area.

Lynn Hurtak

5:19:21PM Okay. New Tampa. Thank you.

Alan Clendenin

5:19:24PM Cttv, can you put the presentation back up? Can you go back to your map where you show the land use? Actually, go back to the other one where existing. This is where I'm having a hard time. I brought this up during my briefing. We look -- regardless of all the stuff of getting in the weeds about this issue, when we're talking about, when we're adopting land use policy, we are always comparing neighborhoods and adjacent parcels. It seems this was very intentional at some point in the past for this massive property. I mean, we're talking about one, two, three, four, five, six by, what, five or six square blocks of property to be public/semi-public. It just rings -- again, if this was any other development and we're talking about putting a different use right smack in the middle of it, I would think that the Planning Commission would come back completely inconsistent with that. If this was heavy industrial and we're going to put a residential in the middle of it or if it was residential and we'll put a heavy industrial in the middle of it or putting -- I don't know -- single-family apartments and wanted to put a massive apartment there, I think we would find inconsistent. I'm having a hard time. I would love the Planning Commission to address that, how placing, when you have this large public/semi-public square footage so symmetrical. Couldn't get any more symmetrical basically if you had asked for it. What the thought process is there going and changing that.

Quinn Steele

5:21:03PM So the parcel is privately owned. P/sp future land use designation recognizes public and public supporting uses. There is no proposed or public supporting uses on this privately owned parcel, therefore it would need to come out of the p/sp future land use designation in order to develop. With any uses and the applicant decided to move forward with residential 3, and I think they can speak to the intent of why they chose that designation.

Alan Clendenin

5:21:30PM I was curious why the consistent recommendation when you look at that, and it's so uniform. It seems oddball to me, because so uniform. If there's any other mix, I just can't even imagine we would have gotten a consistent review from you guys. Dana, did you want to add -- Danny, did you want to add anything to that?

Danny Collins

5:21:52PM Planning Commission staff. Woodlawn cemetery, which is the recreation open space to the east of the site was one of the -- you might remember one of the park initiated amendments a few years back. That was initially p/sp, and then it was amended to the recreation open space designation. We did not initiate the blue -- the cemetery to the north, which is the blue. We did not initiate those because those were privately owned at the time. I just wanted to add that for context.

Alan Clendenin

5:22:24PM Thank you. Councilman Carlson, you wanted to add something.

Bill Carlson

5:22:29PM What was the Planning Commission's staff recommendation? Did they have any advice that was different from -- as well.

Alan Clendenin

5:22:38PM Thank you. Any other questions? Hearing none.

Charlie Miranda

5:22:42PM [Inaudible]

Alan Clendenin

5:22:43PM 1971 I think they said. Okay. Very good. Applicant? I'm a certified planner here representing the applicant, the showmen's association, which are here with me tonight, as well as Mr. Malloy. I do have a presentation. As you know, this is a public quasi-public or public/semi-public land use. I understand that there's questions of what can be done there. This site is actually not intended to be an open space or recreation use just like the site adjacent that are green. Intent is to eventually be developed. Developed with either government buildings. It could be developed with schools. It could be developed with public airport, a parking structure. It could be developed with a parking lot. As well as, obviously, with the cemetery, but also with other public uses. And these public uses you'll find them under the zoning district in which it's located in. Currently, the zoning districts allows for these types of uses that would be permitted in the public, quasi-public or semi-public land use, and this would include day care, nursing facilities. It would include congregate living facility, golf course, community gardens, churches, just like the church to the south of us, and also it would provide for schools and things as such. The interesting thing is that the site does permit for community residential use up to six residents. It basically allows for residential home on-site with six unrelated people, but the reason we have to request a residential three land use is because we want, again, a residential home with six family members. The reason why we ask for res 3, it is the lowest category permitted under the comprehensive plan. Previously a res 10 was requested and it was not recommended approval. Found it too intensive. That's why we wanted to do the res 3 to show the intent of developing the site with single-family development on-site. As I said, the application that some of you have seen back in 2021 it requested for residential 10 with the intent of doing a townhome development. The community, citizens, and some of the council members found it too intensive. So, therefore, why we're here today with a residential 3 for single-family detached development. Staff report found the request compatible with the surrounding area, supporting the comprehensive plan growth management and the housing objectives. They then follow up with 24 different goals, objectives, and policies, including the livable cities. The city designed to promote different range of uses in close proximity to each other. It also, the City Planning strategy to address the population growth in the Tampa area as well as encouraging infill development on vacant and underutilized sites such as this one. Urban village makes sure that the development proposed is compatible and scale with the surrounding single-family development, which this res 3 does permit that. Residential development and redevelopment to ensure there's land available for residential developments such as this one and the single-family area to maintain the existing single-family neighborhoods as this development with single-family homes, single-family neighborhood would be consistent. Provide housing for the needs as well as the new housing on vacant and underutilized land. Infrastructure policies, current infrastructure is in place as sustainability, resiliency and by doing the infill development. Lastly, since the 2021 development, I believe that these policies were introduced for the City of Tampa cemeteries. Although this does not apply to the state site, this is a private property, but they do talk about trying to use the latest techniques, technology, as well as modern scientific analysis to be performed on-site with some concerns. And therefore, with the history of the site and unfounded claims that were done in the past, we went forward and we hired Dr. Erin Kimmerle and her team who are from the Florida institute of forensic anthropology and applied science. They did an extensive analysis and investigation on the site, and they found no definite evidence of burials throughout the investigation. So with that, when we presented in front of the Planning Commission, they found it consistent with the comprehensive plan, City of Tampa Comprehensive Plan and adopted the adoption of the CPA request. With that, that concludes my presentation. I have with me Mr. Malloy who will come and present and I thank you for your time. William malloy, 325 South Boulevard. I just have a few very direct points I want to make on this particular case. The first one, and I can't -- I cannot stress this enough, I think there is possibly a notion out there that this property cannot be developed. What Ms. Albert just went through and what I hope you were able to glean from that, that's not true. It's severely restricted in what can be developed but you can break ground here. Any action tonight is not unwinding a protection by any means. It's just changing the land use. There are things that can be legally constructed today on this piece of property. They are not ideal. They are not appropriate for the site, but they exist. The second point, and this gels with that, this is private property. It's got a very unfortunate public/semi-public designation that is virtually useless to a private citizen. I'm not saying that is an inverse condemnation or regulatory taking but it is problematic. Not a Planning issue but not an issue a private citizen should be in in the City of Tampa. They did go through the motions very appropriately to segregate the parcel from the larger defined block of p/sp to make sure it was clearly defined and delineated. With that, I'll invite Mr. Ron batten up here who has been a very faithful steward of this project and has a lot of insight on the history. My name is Ron batton with peoples choice realty. Been in real estate for 36 years. Born and raised in Tampa. I just wanted to kind of give an outlay of how this got started. I was brought in in April of 2025 by showmen's rest. The idea was they needed to come up with a way to fund their cemetery so that the City of Tampa wouldn't be hazard by taking it over or having to deal with it in the future. They are running out of money. Basically, I professionally analyzed what was in front of me. The first thing I've discovered was the historical designation as a cemetery with the State of Florida. This property lost its designation in May of 2025. And then in June of 2011, they posted it. And then I find out in 2025, April 28, 2025, that there are opposing side, somebody from the opposing side, which I have the signed documents if anybody wants to see it, they put in to reinstate it as a historical cemetery without the owner's knowledge or without anybody approving that. Anyway, that was one thing I found out right-of-way. Then I realized once the City Council met on this property in 2022, that even if the City Council wanted to approve this property, because there was a mausoleum on this folio number, that I told the owners that we need to divide it up. So we divided it up and made it three parcels. The original folio number area call 51, the original cemetery, and then the new -- the folio number already there on the large piece is now the middle piece. The bottom piece got a new folio number. Then we changed the ownership name to members of the showmen's rest just to kind of further designate it from showmen's rest. That's kind of where we were on this. They spent money on getting surveys. I went through the proper channels through the city to get the folio approved. That all happened in July of 2025. The property has always been zoned residential single-family RS 50, residential single-family 50-foot fronts, but this quasi-public has been the problem we've had with the property. Showmen's rest since 2022 has spent over $115,000 trying to keep the property alive, keep the roof dried in. Had to fix the wall and then also all the stuff we had to do to get this in front of you guys. They are in debt for this. They don't have money to do this stuff. Don't have another year left in the organization to keep the place going. Conclusion: we have three seismic studies that you -- we have two geoviews and then this USF study. All of them stated in their prognosis or analysis that there was no burials. The only way to be 100% sure was to dig. When USF went this last time, they had the right to do a dig. They were going to bring in excavating equipment. They did surveys 40 feet down. Nobody is -- anyway, bottom line is, there was nothing, no reason to bring in the equipment to do any kind of digging. So that was my conclusion. I just hope that you guys can see this. They need the money to keep the city, becoming a burden to the city is what we're trying to do. Thank you for your time. I am the person with the contract on the property.

5:33:44PM Put the presentation back up, please. I'm going to make this quick. It's amazing how quick this clock moves. I'll cut some of my comments. I would offer thank you for your service. I'm a marine, 30 years retired now. Tampa is home for us. We moved a dozen times through my career, but this is always where we came back to because this is where I grew up. Very proud of my family, very proud of what we do in Tampa. The center picture is four generations of serving the homeless and those who need warm food the most in our community. And that property, yes, that's where we want to build our forever home. I'm just going to go through this quick. Please, ask detailed questions about the report. I'm more than ready to answer the questions because we can't piece meal this. It's very important. It's very important. And I believe this process highlights the right process for the City of Tampa. We went through and we looked at the history. We looked at the land. We looked at ground truth. At the end of the day, when my wife and I walked into this, we had no idea what we walked into. We were like, wow, look at the property. We pulled the string, holy smokes. My only intention was let's listen. Let's go find out where this goes. Let's find out where the questions meet us. That's what I did. I ended up listening to a multiple hour past city commission hearing. I read all the reports, everything. And it left a lot of hard questions and seams I felt needed to be closed up. That's why I took it upon myself to say let's do the right thing here. Let's make sure -- because I know the history of Tampa. Let's make sure we do this the right way. That's what we did. We went out and wanted to find out and at the end of the day, I think this is one of the biggest issues. There is a lot of knowledge out there about the northwest section of woodlawn having unmarked burials. And you have known potter's field. However, the report I expected to get a yes-no. I didn't expect a 40 page anthropological history. That's what you see. It's not easy to read. When you read and understand, the map on the left, what happened, that map back 1915, 16, used an insert. Up to the northwest and laid it in the other map. That's why you see it outlined darker and why you see ola in the inset map is actually way to the west. It's not on the eastern side of woodlawn like you typically know it to be. What they ended up doing, you can see the way the map plotted it is where the red rectangle is. There is an absolute reason why history reflected what it did and what we thought was true can actually be shown to be a misunderstanding. And that's what I'm articulating here. This is big. I'm happy to talk more about it. It was actually a third of a mile away from the subject site. Then you look, just because we have the reports, what is the grounding actually telling us. You can see aerial photos going back to 1938. The one comment that came out from the study in particular said it is remarkably unchanged. Remarkably unchanged because, why, the city acknowledged in 1925 the area needed to be drained because it was a swamp. So the study showed prior to 1925 odds are there were no burials in that area. Now we're getting into a window of time and then the study goes further to assess what is actually there and they see the infrastructure with how it was drained and fill dirt brought in between that time period in 1938. So we start putting history together. Bring science into this. Bring technology into this. We did. It wasn't just the one study. It wasn't just a gpr, it was all the studies. All the ones from the past. All the ones that we have today. We laid it all out. Where does it take you? We dug. You can see the shiny water. It's right there. The water table is right there. That's where they put the fill dirt. They had entire access, no limits to what we were going to do. Search everywhere. At the end of the day, that's what they showed. That's the end of it. Thank you very much.

5:38:05PM Thank you very much. Councilwoman Hurtak, you had a question.

Lynn Hurtak

5:38:08PM No, it was answered. Thank you very much.

Alan Clendenin

5:38:11PM Very good. Concludes our presentation.

5:38:21PM Very good. We'll move on to public comment unless there are any questions. If you are here to speak to this item, please stand up five at a time. It's going to take some time. Five at a time against the wall. When it's your turn, you can come to the podium since we have people here not familiar with this, the microphone is in the podium. You start always with your name. If you speak always with your name and then you'll have three minutes. Green light comes up, that is the beginning. Yellow light, you have 30 seconds and it will ding. Then you'll have 30 seconds left. When it turns red, you have to stop talking whether mid sentence, mid word, mid anything, when it turns red, take a seat and we'll say thank you. We have online speakers as well. Since they are sitting at home and comfortable, we'll get to them when the people in here are done in the uncomfortable seats. Start with your name. You'll have three minutes. Jim McCarthy, 1317 West Woodlawn Avenue.

5:39:28PM Pause it for a second. The microphone is omnidirectional. You can stand up straight. I live right down the street in river side heights. Been there for 31 years. This property is just part of the fabric of our neighborhood. Before I comment on my opinion on this applicant, let me just say that I believe in people's property rights. I believe in creating attainable housing. We have a housing shortage in the city, especially single-family homes. I applaud the efforts of being creative with land. But let me just say, simple as possible, this is the wrong thing. This property is a cemetery. If it looks like a duck and quacks like a duck, it's a duck. I believe in housing. I believe in single-family housing. As you know, I'm a home builder. I've created over 850 single-family homes in the city. But this property is a cemetery. If it's across the street from a cemetery, I can see that. But contiguous within a cemetery, you know the history. There's no guarantee. I've looked at the Planning Commission's report. This is gobbledygook. You don't have res 3 in river side heights and Tampa Heights. If the applicant wants to take the enthusiasm of his family and live in the neighborhood, there's lots everywhere. Riverside Heights, Tampa Heights, Seminole Heights, Wells wood. I have nine lots all around there. You can buy lots from 175,000 to $400,000 in Riverside Heights. There's no lack of available attainable lots to build for your single-family home and for your family, your beautiful family. Thank you for your service, sir. Thank you. But take that enthusiasm and be a part of the neighborhood. Don't buy a property that's next to showmen's rest. My neighborhood, barney degusie, Charlie, I think you remember barney. Best storyteller ever. He would tell me about growing up in Ybor City. He would go out as a kid and eat guava from the trees. Go to cuscaden park and play baseball. You know what? When a cemetery funeral procedure was going by, you know what the kids did, they stopped. They stopped playing ball. They took their cap off because they respected the person that was being buried. That's what you have here. You don't have just grandparents and parents. You have children. You have babies that weren't born in this cemetery. It's sacred ground and it means a lot to me. Do not approve letting that parcel of property become single-family or any other attainable, anything. It's supposed to be sacred grounds. People deserve to rest and that's what they're doing. Thank you.

5:42:19PM Thank you. Hello, my friend. Next speaker, please. Start with your name.

5:42:31PM Say your name again. Good afternoon, council. Charlie, I wore black. If you know, you know. I want to address something up front. The applicant has spoken about his 30 years of service to our country. And I respect that service. My 18-year-old grandson is about to deploy to jordan next month. But neither one has anything to do with land use decision before you today. This decision needs to be about the land and the evidence. Woodlawn is approximately 38.9 acres. It's a cemetery. This parcel is surrounded by cemetery land on the north, on the east, and on the south. By the way, Ola Avenue is the east side of the cemetery. Plymouth on the south, North Boulevard on the west, Indiana on the north. But this property is surrounded by cemetery on three sides. Woodlawn has been a cemetery since 1888, 138 years. It should remain a cemetery. Those of us who were born and raised here have always known it was a cemetery. Aileen has great grandparents buried there. I have a great grandfather. His daughter, my aunt maria, they are buried there. These are our families. This is Tampa's history. I need to address you. At the September 14 Planning Commission meeting, the Planning Commission had not been given Dr. Erin Kimmerle's 51-page report when they made their decision. Instead, commissioners who are the applicant's characterization of the report. That characterization did not tell the whole story. The investigation had limitations, and USF was not able to excavate every part of the parcel. So please don't hear nothing was found and translate that to there are no burials. Those are not the same things. The question isn't whether the study was done. The question is whether the study provides enough certainty to make a permanent land use decision. Woodlawn opened in 1888. Showmen's rest did not acquire the property until 1951, 63 years later. They acquired this parcel in 1971. That means decades of cemetery history came before the acquisition. Not every burial had a permanent marker. Not every person buried in a modern casket. I ask you why take that chance? If we are wrong and this land is disturbed we can never undo it. We've stood before you before and we asked you to save woodlawn cemetery and you did. Once again, we're asking you to please save woodlawn cemetery. It's a cemetery. Orlando Gudes said it. Ej Salcines, it's a cemetery.

5:45:34PM Those of you in the audience, the acoustics in here are really good. Back ROW that are talking, if you guys need to talk, if you could take it outside to the hall, appreciate it. It's crazy how well it is. When you whisper, it distracts the folks at the podium and we want to give everybody their do. If you have a conversation, take it out there. That would be great. Valerie. Valerie bullock. This is very disturbing to me. This sounds like zion 2.0. We know all over the City of Tampa we have apartments and king school buried on top of the cemetery. We can't do anything about the past, but we can vote no to stop it from happening. It's a sad day when we have to keep coming down here because they want to build on a cemetery. You don't get to live in peace and now you don't get to rest in peace. We need to look at what was the law when they bought the property. If the land was designated public/semi-public let's keep it like that. They bought it and it's a lot of people buying land in the City of Tampa, and they think they can get the zoning change. Everybody who put in for a zoning request do not get it. That is just a chance you have to take. And because the historical designation was removed, that don't negate the fact that it's still a cemetery, whether it has the historical designation or not. And if we can't get a definitive no, any bodies up under there, City Council should vote no. this is very deplorable. Thank you very much.

5:47:15PM Thank you so much. Thank you for the brevity. Next speaker, please. Start with your name. Speaker waiver form. Up here. The gentleman in the cage.

Martin Shelby

5:47:33PM Four names. Please acknowledge presence. Samantha carlin. Montse carlin. Ashell manibar. Claudia fries. That's four names, plus three is seven.

Alan Clendenin

5:47:58PM Start with your name. Seven minutes. I am the prospective buyer for this property. I have a journalism background. Though the years -- through the years my kids learned with the repeated --

5:48:12PM Can you pause one moment? Mr. Shelby.

Martin Shelby

5:48:17PM She's not the applicant. Are you the applicant?

Alan Clendenin

5:48:22PM You are not a party. Sorry for the interruption. Reset your time from the beginning. Start with your name please and seven minutes. Property. Journalism background, through the years kids learned with a repeated swipe of red pen that I like a good edit and fact checking. They heard me say many times words matter. In the formal written language the use of words in proper context matter even more. So imagine with me a small town purchases land for a school and the map people label that area as school site. 25 years later, growth hasn't been expected and no school has ever been built, so the town changes course. The site was not actually a school no matter what the map showed for 25 years. Words in proper context matter. For only erected walls with students can bring forth the actuality of school. The original plan didn't buy itself tell us anything about the practical application of the land or what the town could use of that land going forward. The intended plan was unfulfilled, so the future plan can change. So let's go to real time. A private cemetery association purchased land for expansion and the map people labeled that area as cemetery. But 50 years later, demand hasn't been as expected and no caskets have ever been buried, so the association changes course. The site was not actually a cemetery no matter what the map showed for 50 years. Words in proper context matter for only the laying of the dead to rest can bring forth the actuality of cemetery. Again, the original plan didn't by itself tell us anything about the practical application of the land or what the association could use of that land going forward. The intended plan was unfulfilled, so the future plan can change. Now, of course, we all know it's not as simple as that. We need another chapter in this story because there are way more than 50 years to consider and it's right to ask for more context that might have happened before the association took ownership. Tampa has a sordid history in nearby grounds and in need of a way to rectify and reconcile speculation anecdotal accounts and map discrepancies. So, like a long-awaited super hero, emerging from the paralyzed cloud of uncertainty, Tampa's own science superheroes answered the call. Dr. Kimmerle is the trusted expert and her team has instrumental in identifying and documenting proof of human remains. They took charge to fully investigate and analyze the site to fully investigate. As the seller, the applicant gave permission to access the entire property. And as the prospective buyers my husband and I gave the financial resources to power up and fly high. For them to go and do what they do best. We have a written contract stating this absolute permission with the clear expectation that the team was to do everything possible above and below the surface as much as they deemed necessary. They were hired to deliver for all of the interested parties a thorough and unbiased determination. And from a 51 page report that Dr. Kimmerle herself says can stand on its own, and as the late paul Harvey would say, now we have the rest of the story. We now have words in proper context. This parcel is clean. So any reference to it as cemetery is not accurate. There is no evidence of human remains. The burial in potters field map commonly referenced is the wrong one. Much of the land is historically documented flood zone and there is a water table just three foot down. Now people back in the 1900s knew you can't bury anybody in a flood zone. The only thing of significance buried in that dirt is a drainage pipe. The experts, the experts are science superheroes have defeated the villain called uncertainty. Great clouds along North Boulevard are gone. The sun can shine forth and we can all take a big sigh of relief because these words matter, especially in this case, when elevated with really good science, the use of words in proper context matter even more. So adding to that next chapter of our story, I return. The intended plan of the land was unfulfilled and now the doubt of practical use has been lifted. So the future plan of this land can change. This is actually a win for everybody. So from the first time my husband and I walked on this property, I said to him, you know, there are five wins that are at hand. Five wins lining up. And this is how I see the wins lining up here today. The applicant. The applicant has already won as it was already presented. This land will sell. It's positioned to sell. It's private property. The determination is what will get built on it? So the number one winner here goes to the applicant. Congratulations, applicant. Number works to the City of Tampa has already won twofold. The right process has provided much-needed answers. Now with the eventual sale of this parcel, the city will be released from the prospect of burdening taxpayers with the cost of acquiring showmen's rest, which is an actual cemetery. The applicant will be able to fund taking care of its own cemetery in the name of preservation, which is also a common theme for tonight. And the city will be able to attend to its own municipal grounds that are in disrepair. So we've got a positive note in history and avoiding taxpayer burden. Win number two goes to the City of Tampa. And to use the words of the gentleman who spoke a few minutes ago, if it walks like a duck and talks like a duck, it's a duck. Our number three winner tonight is the Cemetery Society, because now we know that it doesn't walk like a duck and it doesn't talk like a duck. These people are such great advocates and their commitment to preservation and their tenacity for decisive action have facilitated the study that has solved one of Tampa's historic land mysteries. The society demanded answers that only professionals like Dr. Kimmerle and her expert team can adequately answer. Dr. Kimmerle's report is not opinion. It's science. There's a lot of preservation effort in Tampa that still needs to happen, but for now, the society can breathe easy. So now we've got two more wins in front of you tonight. The first win is Tampa Heights. I've talked to several people who have said they didn't want a condo complex and they don't want a day care. So when that land sells, what will it be for Tampa Heights? Our one home. Solution is the best fit for the vibe of the community. The final winners is my family. We want to build a home for our family and we think we're the best solution to preserve the integrity of the area. Thank you.

5:55:33PM Thank you. Next speaker, please. Start with your name. I came to speak today on behalf of the family, carlin family. I've called Tampa home since 2009. I sympathize and empathize with everybody who has an emotional tie to the property. I've seen oak trees come down, greenspace disappear over the past years and I've hated every minute of it. What I do know is change happens. There's nothing you can really do about it. I served with colonel carlin at u.s. centcom and serve the homeless on Sunday. Something he does. He is a mentor to the neighborhood and my family as well. This land is going to be sold. It's going to be developed. If you could choose anybody to develop that land, it would be curtis carlin and his family because they will take care of it, they will oversee it as opposed to somebody who has no interest in the neighborhood or community. So I'll keep my points very short. Just wanted to put that out there. Thank you.

5:56:37PM Thank you very much. Thank you for brevity. Next speaker, please. My name is dan kiger. I, too, am going to speak on behalf of knowing the carlins. I'm in the business of truth. Truth and clarity. It's true that Tampa has had a sketchy history when it comes to land development and disregarding potential human remains. It's true that a study had to be done for this parcel of land. It's true that study was done. It's true that study found there were no human remains. It's true that I've heard multiple people here talk about respecting property rights. It's true this land will be developed. I have yet to hear anybody consider the impact, the real impact of the city, of the neighborhood with traffic that will come with a school, a government building, what have you, versus a single-family residence. That's real. That's real impact. I spoke with a significant member of the showmen's rest. They want a family resident there. They do. All of these things matter. That's all I have to say. Thank you.

5:57:59PM Thank you very much. Next speaker, please. The device, if you put it face up, it will turn on automatically. And then a wheel on the top of the device that you can zoom in and zoom out. Three minutes. Here on behalf of my family. I'm the youngest of the family members. I'm a little bit disconnected especially newlywed so I don't always know what's going on. Obviously I knew my parents were looking to buy a house. I hear they are looking to build it near a cemetery and that there were some issues with that, so they do a study to find out if there were any bodies buried there. The study shows there were no bodies ever buried there and conclusive. Okay, great. I'm confused. Still hearing there is resistance. Don't want it to be built and disrupts the serenity, that it's disrespectful to the grounds and that sort of thing. I went and visited it myself. I saw a video where there were claims being made about this, where there was a disruption and disrespect to the property. So I went and looked at it myself. What I saw, this is an angle looking at where the house would be built from the cemetery, the one in particular that's in the video where certain claims were being made. What I see is a wall of mature trees that block out pretty much anything you would see. You can see there is a person standing right there. The house would be built behind the trees. Complete wall. You wouldn't be able to see anything except for maybe a massive government building or parking lot or something like that, but most likely just not a single-family home. I look up from there, look to my right, what do I see? I see a baseball stadium that's built. That is a little confusing. Okay, that would seem to me that that would disrupt the serenity and be a little more disrespectful thinking of games going on, clank, clank, clank, people trying to be there in peace or be with their loved ones. That was confusing because that seemed to be more disrespectful or disrupt. The radiant church is there. They can get loud and get rowdy. I'm sure there is a lot of disruption there as well. As well as just the surrounding area. You can look at more and more photos. The baseball stadium, the surrounding houses, ups coming by. You can imagine all these things, like they mentioned, the surrounding area has been developed and this land is going to be developed regardless. As someone who, of course, my family is looking to live here, but as someone who is a little bit disconnected and more just confused about everything. When I go and look at this property, I don't see how you can come to the conclusion that a single-family home would somehow disrupt or be disrespectful to the grounds themselves, especially considering the fact that there's already been a completely conclusive report showing that where the property would be built, there were no bodies ever buried there. I don't really see how those dots are being connected. As someone who went and witnessed the grounds myself. Last thing I'll mention, from the house property itself looking into the cemetery, you literally can see nothing. It's not like there is an invasion there. That's it. Thank you.

6:01:22PM Thank you very much. Don't forget your photographs. I'll say this one more time. If you're speaking and even whispering, we can hear you. It's extremely distracting. Please, if you're doing that and I catch it again, I'll rule you out of order and ask you to leave council chambers, okay? Everybody deserves their time to be heard. The time to be heard -- Aileen, come on. Stop talking back there. The time to be heard is when you're at the podium and you deserve 100% of our attention when you're at the podium. Please, if you are not at the podium, zip it. If you need to speak, please exit and go outside. Next speaker, please. You have three minutes. I'm jeff braddock, Tampa native and returning raising my family in this incredible city. I'm here today to speak in support of the carlin family and to the character they have shown this community year after year. The carlins are people of doing it. They hold high standards. They do the right thing. Their yes means yes, and their hand shake means something. The level of care and persistent search for truth in the process is characteristic of every member of this family. They are a family of faith. Their faith is not just spoken, it's lived out to the service of others. They lead organizations that feed the poor and homeless of the city making sure our most vulnerable neighbors are seen, fed, and treated with dignity. Curtis is a retired marine colonel. The family continues to support our veterans and contribute time and focus on current and transitioning veterans and their development. They are active in ministry to the youth of Tampa, investing in young people at those incredible moments where their guidance matters the most. None of this is done for any recognition. They show up early. They stay late. They expect nothing in return. Their example has encouraged countless men in the South Tampa community to step up, give their time and contribute meaningfully. I will say I'm here because I am one of those men. I am personally grateful for the example the carlins have set and I am a better neighbor and better man for having followed it. The carlins have been faithful stewards in this community. I have confidence equally faithful stewards of the property. Treat the property with care, improve it from the current position and build for the next generation. It is my privilege standing here to affirm without reservation the character of this family and to advocate for the approval of their petition. Thank you for the time.

6:04:12PM Thank you very much. Next speaker, please. Start with your name and it will start. I believe I'm the last carlin to speak tonight. You don't have to see any of the rest of us. I actually spoke at the hearing last week in front of the city commission, Planning Commission. I didn't have any prepared remarks then. I just got up and spoke so that's what I'm doing tonight. What I did share last week was that, you know, one of the things that defines my family, as my dad mentioned, is our service to the country. I don't use that as a bargaining chip for why you should say yes or no on this. It's to bring up the point that for all of our lives we never had a home. Traveled every two to three years. Never had a place that was ours. Since I was a kid, my parents talked about that forever home that we would have at some point. Didn't know where it would be. We knew it would be in Tampa because my parents are both born and raised here. Always called the Tampa area home with both our grandparents, paternal and maternal living in Brandon. We've always been in this area. Tampa is very important to us. When it comes to what is sacred and what is holy, obviously we're a family of immense faith. We take that very seriously. And we have tremendous respect for the dead. If there was any inclination that there was something morally or ethically wrong with the property itself that something would be built on it, this would not be happening because that's the kind of man my father is. That's the kind of woman my mother is. They took the steps necessary in order to ensure that would not occur. I can relate to my brother in the sense that honestly I've been disconnected from this. I know my parents have been pursuing the property. I hear the updates here and there. You should see the binder that my father developed for this presentation. I have not read it, truthfully. From what I know tonight, obviously there are strong opinions on both sides as to what should happen with the property. But I'm a man of truth. I think everybody wants to pursue the truth. The decision that you have in front of you obviously is not easy because you have some people that are going to be really upset and some people that are going to be really happy. What I believe the decision before you is, is what is the City of Tampa said? If I understand correctly, the city has said this proposed land use change is in alignment with the comprehensive plan. In addition to that, all the studies had been done to show that there are no bodies there. And really, as my mom mentioned, the fact that there are five winners in this is special. The biggest winner in my opinion is the cemetery that has been around for generations will be underwater if this doesn't happen. Really, the decision before you is what is the best next step for this piece of property? It is private and they do deserve the right to sell it. We do believe that will be the best moving forward.

6:07:27PM Thank you very much. Next speaker, please. If you are here to speak, please line up against the wall. Get queued up. Brett russell, 3420 Ohio Avenue. I am here to speak on behalf of the carlins. I am their builder. We've been developing this lot since they've been under contract for it. Beautiful property and obviously a lot of history there. I know one of the things was a concern for everybody, what's going to be built there, how much. I know right now we have a future land use that would allow something other than a single-family home. So changing it to RS 3 which is needed obviously and having one small home in the southeast corner more than a hundred foot off of the street, probably be the most uninvasive thing there. Just to talk a little bit about the property as far as what we have, this would be the north end of the property here, southern end. This is where the proposed home is going, the driveway coming in from the south side.

6:08:41PM There is a wheel on the top of the device. South end. The home is positioned in the southeast corner with a driveway on the south coming from the south gate that is currently there. Like I said, very -- amazing family. Very involved in the community and in their faith. They learned a lot about the history of this land. They don't want to disturb anything. Obviously, with all of the reports that have come back and all of the testing that has been done, it's pretty conclusive that it shows there is nothing there. I feel like this family has gone through all the hoops and all of the proper processes to get to this point. Like John just stated, I know you guys have a hard decision in front of yourselves, but I believe this is the right decision to allow them to build this house. How we build, we build a quality, long-standing home. The carlins want this to be their forever home. So we are going to build to suit that. With the gpr, I've had some experience with it with another client, just recently on a lot in Port Tampa, we had a land fill that we found. That gpr showed a lot more under the ground. It was a major excavation that we did. The findings on this lot from the gpr were not near as much. Proper excavation was done and obviously has shown that nothing was found. Again, I want to speak on the carlins. They are great folks. More than happy to be their builder. Thank you for your time tonight.

6:10:40PM Thank you. Next speaker, please. Start with your name, please. Good evening, council. I want to open by putting it on public record that the carlins son blocked my path when I tried to walk back. I also want it on record that the picture that the other carlin brother showed was of my great, great-grandparents. Not acceptable. And we're talking about their integrity. Was that to rattle my cage? I'm not sure, but I want it on record that that's what they have done. Now, I can talk all day long about the emotional part of this, because my family as a fifth generation, oh, by the way, I have 29 years as a public servant, as if that mattered. It doesn't. I could talk all day long about that, but I'm not. What I'm going to talk about is the survey that they keep misrepresenting because it's clear. You know what, council, I don't stop there because you all know me. When I come to the table, I come with receipts. We didn't stop at Erin kimmerle's report. I took that report and I sent it to Rachel kangas, the director of west central and central region for the Florida public archaeology network. I sent it to her. I said I need a statement. Please evaluate this for me. I'm not the expert. She is. So is Dr. Kimmerle. Let me read the paragraph to you. You received it in the e-mail this afternoon. It's in your packet. It's highlighted in green. I reviewed the most recent gpr report submitted by Dr. Kimmerle and the report makes it clear that they cannot -- all caps -- cannot rule out the possibility of burials on the land. They can't rule out burials in the areas they surveyed, and they absolutely cannot rule them out in areas of the plot they did not survey. This report does not say there are no burials on the plot. Now you have two experts that have told you there is no way they can clear that parcel. Those are the facts. But wait, I've got more. Your City departments said no. City Planning June 30, 2026, concluded that p/sp better accommodates the city's more conservative thoughtful approach and land Development Coordination June 30 formally objected to changing the designation. I don't know how much more you need. The answer is no. it ends tonight. Put it to rest. Stick a fork in it. The goose is cooked. No. and don't let it ever come before this council again. You have the power to do it. Please vote no. thank you, council.

6:14:03PM Did you wish to speak? I'm sorry. My name is John purja. I am showmen's rest. The reason we're selling this property.

6:14:18PM You are the --

6:14:21PM You are the owner of the property, so it would be inappropriate. Presentation. He is part of our team. If you care to hear what he had to say, I can present it. If not we can sit down quickly.

6:14:45PM We have some online public speakers. We've got -- sheila Weiss Evans, are you online? Unmute yourself, please. Sheila. Unmute yourself, please. We show you muted. Sheila going once, going twice, I'll come back to you after I go to the next two. Melanie charleston. I believe maybe carlin charleston. Are you going to speak together? Are you guys online? Mr. Charleston. Start with your name, please. I can't hear. Can I only read the captions.

6:15:44PM We can hear you. If you can see that I'm talking to. I have my three minutes.

6:15:52PM Start with your name please. You have three minutes. Want to make sure you could hear me. I'll go. Hello, I'm carlin charleston. I'm here in houston, Texas. I'm calling on behalf of the carlins. I'm going to be very brief because I think -- I don't have anything technical to offer. I'm a Texas resident. I love governor desantis because he calls truth, truth. As a texan we appreciate that. That's why I like when talked about something walks like a duck, quacks like a duck, looks like a duck, it is a duck, until we test it and find out, well, it is a chicken and it's not a duck. That makes sense to me. For sensible people, you have a real decision to make. It's not going to be one made on the technical information I think for City Council personnel. It's going to be one that's made based on integrity and character. And I think some people have gotten up and tried to make you emotional about it. So I'm just leaving it to the City Council to make the best judgment decision based on the integrity and character issue because the carlins have been there. I spend time working with the homeless there. It's not like they are doing this just for their interest. They are doing it for the interest of Tampa. I spent time working on the homeless project with them. And so think about your decision when you make it, are you trying to really make a decision on the basis of what's best for Tampa? Because they do that every day. And you have an opportunity to do that I think with them. You want to support people who are going to support Tampa. And that's who the carlins are. Thank you.

6:17:30PM Thank you, Mr. Charles. Sheila Weiss Evans, can you hear me? If you can hear me, please unmute yourself. This is another opportunity. Sheila? Going once ... Going twice ... Have a good night, sheila. Melanie charleston, if you are online, please -- show her online now? No. okay. That concludes our public comment. Applicant, would you like a rebuttal? Mr. Carlin is going to speak. I know that since isabel and I presented we had a lot of emotion, a lot of stories, a lot of things going on. Please don't lose site of the fact that this is a Planning exercise. We have Planning Commission support and the Planning Commission's vote on that. I want to reiterate that. Thank you. Difficult place to be. There's no doubt there is a lot of emotion out there. I was told before I came into this event, it doesn't matter. Their minds are made up. I will not believe that, because I believe in the system. I believe in what is trusted to the individuals in this room. I want to start, there is no disrespect to Aileen. I truly do, truly do applaud her for her passion in what she's trying to do out there, because I walked woodlawn cemetery multiple times. I had pictures. I'm not going to show them. But I think each of you know the quality of the graves out there and how bad they look. It's in incredible disarray. I want to make clear, the points I'm making, there's nothing personal here. We are trying to do what I believe is truly the best yes in a very tough situation. I would ask you, if there's any way to a yes to support the preservation of a historical cemetery, the showmen's, I would like to hear what the right yes is, because the only one I've been able to look at and I'm a war fighter and I mapped it all out, I don't see one that gets us to yes better than what this course of action does. So with that, they talk about the scope of work and everything else. I'm happy to provide the 13-page contract. I was so clear to Dr. Kimmerle. Of course, she is a scientist. You can't prove a negative. You can't. But I told her, you can absolutely take the entire top layer of that ground off. Do whatever you need to do so that we know the answer, not prove what I desire. I want you, with your reputation, explain what is there, which she showed was not any remains or any type of burials. She brought in heavy equipment. She didn't need it, because the technology and her information was good. I said, okay, well, let's go back and let's look, in 2022, what were the questions that some of you who are sitting up here had? That wasn't a no forever. That was a no what do we need to do. You can see the noes there on the left, what the issues were and how we've come back and actually answered those questions. You asked very clearly about the standards the Cemetery Society asked us to meet. Quote, how can we be sure there are not bodies there, that was in 2022. If we're not right. If there are no human remains, then do the gpr and prove us wrong. If you look at the dates and you find out when we did the gpr and signed the contract, I said we're going to do it. We're not going to go on emotion. We'll prove whether it is or isn't. That's what we did. The report came back the day of the Planning Commission, the day before, on Sunday evening. We have the report now. Everything that's been asked. Comprehensive gpr, independent archaeological studies, qualified reviews. Safeguards written. Oh, by the way, look who it specifically quoted by those who care for the cemetery back in 2022. We need somebody like Dr. Kimmerle and her team to come and do this. Once again, I ask, where is the path to yes? What else is required? What else is required? We completed the site investigation not once. There's been three now. Three. Independent reviews, ground truthing, wherever there was anomaly, they dug. Qualified professionals who this organization and everyone recognizes as the leads came in unchained, not controlled in any way, and the results are very clear. They came back with the same finding. There are no remains that are annotated or found in any of the sites, specifically where we want to build. So that's my rebuttal. I would like to hear what a path to yes is for nobody else, showmen's rest needs to know that.

6:23:12PM Thank you very much. We have a motion to close from Councilwoman Hurtak. And second from Councilman Maniscalco.

Bill Carlson

6:23:17PM I just want to ask one question. Is Dr. Kimmerle here to answer questions?

Alan Clendenin

6:23:21PM Is Dr. Kimmerle here? Dr. Kimmerle and tristan Wells, the two lead ph.d.s did not have the ability in the schedule. Her specific reports were, the report stands on its own.

6:23:40PM I have a motion to close and I have a second. Councilwoman Hurtak and Councilman Maniscalco. All those in favor say aye. Opposed? Ayes have it.

Lynn Hurtak

6:23:55PM I would not like to discuss because generally with comprehensive plan, we don't need to have reasons. I'll tell my reason, but ultimately there are a lot of things talked about tonight that really have no basis in this proceeding at all. What they do for a community, that does not matter. People who own the property do not matter. What is on the property, that's not what we're looking at tonight. What we're looking at, is this an appropriate land use for this space? So my initial question, which was, is there any r-3 in this area? The answer was no. where can you find the most r-3? In New Tampa, which is miles away. It is inappropriate to put suburban rural zoning in an urban setting. I'm going to deny file number ta/cpa 26-05 at 3541 North Boulevard from public/semi-public to residential 3.

Guido Maniscalco

6:25:12PM I'll second that and add here, what I'm looking at for the agency review of the City of Tampa objection, does the City staff finds the long-term Planning vision of the city favors a more conservative, thoughtful approach to development around cemetery uses. Which is better accommodated under the adopted public/semi-public future land use designation. That's right here.

Alan Clendenin

6:25:35PM I heard folks talk about this as well this evening. I gave you guys a kind of indication of the lead of the points to prove to win over my vote. I was listening through the entire hearing. Again, I gave you an indication that had this square block that was designated for future land use a certain way, convince me why there would be a reason why of changing that. I did not hear any evidence or any compelling reason or justification to carve this block out and change that designation. For the public and semi-public designation. There wasn't any evidence. Again, I gave that indication right from my beginning. That was the point for you guys to prove and you failed to do that. Councilman Carlson.

Bill Carlson

6:26:24PM Building on what my colleague said, all my colleagues appreciate the service of the colonel and his family and everything they have done. That part of it is a very compelling story. I think we all would want to just for the sake of the service probably make this decision for that reason, but ultimately you have to look at what's best for the land use in the area, and this just doesn't match.

Alan Clendenin

6:26:53PM Any other discussion before we call for a vote?

Charlie Miranda

6:26:56PM I listened to both sides. Both have professional people that do this for a living. And both are somewhat different. The one from Rachel kangas she speaks about the possibility. The other one does not, to some degree. They contradict each other to some aspect, as far as how do I know which is which when two experts can't come to an agreement. That leaves doubt in my own mind as to what do I do now? Punt the football. We're not playing football. We're playing land use. And it was mentioned about the three. There's where I think the problem lies. P 3, discovery of rebar, I don't know what that means, rubber coated end of something. Could be consistent with a burial block marker. I've never been in a funeral home working as a block marker. I don't know what the hell that is. I have to go on what the experts said, but they contradict each other. So the experts here check off, but then what council member Hurtak talked about was not the land as far as the burial, the zoning matter of the three. When you do zonings, you don't have an r 1, r 2 and then 34 story building between them. It doesn't work that way. So this is what we're looking at and doesn't meet the requirement and land Development Coordination said there was concern regarding the modification -- midpoint and North Boulevard and objected to it.

Alan Clendenin

6:28:31PM Just to clear things up, it's funny, because everybody came down in the hearing with one assumption and that was whether there were bodies. You haven't heard one person up here discuss that. This is all about land use. It wasn't about the fact that the cemetery or not a cemetery. It's about land use and whether this is appropriate change to future land use. I also think this is a case in point for the Planning Commission about why we need to carve these functions out a little bit better. You saw the multitude of uses under this public/semi-public land use. It's a classic example of why this needs to be adjusted and changed as we move forward. I have a motion to deny --

Luis Viera

6:29:09PM May I, Mr. Chair.

Alan Clendenin

6:29:12PM Go ahead.

Luis Viera

6:29:13PM You're good. Thank you, sir. Again, thank you for allowing me to appear virtually. I'm feeling under the weather. It's funny, Councilman Miranda and Councilman Carlson talked about the two -- when I see appeals to emotion, I don't mean that in a negative light. Just the issues that have been talked about, which is, one, the potential of bodies there that have been discussed, on the other side, the petitioner's stellar presentation. And just stating as a person, from what I see in this petition, you can tell this is a person of integrity, decency and patriotism who means very, very well, but unfortunately, the methods by which we have to apply scrutiny to this particular application don't take those issues into account, unfortunately. And by virtue of that level of scrutiny, I will be supporting the motion made, but just wanted to note that because I think that is worthy to be noted as Miranda and Carlson noted. Thank you.

Alan Clendenin

6:30:10PM Thank you, Councilman Viera. I have a motion to deny from Councilwoman Hurtak. I have a second from Councilman Maniscalco. Roll call, please.

Naya Young

6:30:16PM Yes.

Luis Viera

6:30:19PM Yes.

Bill Carlson

6:30:20PM Yes.

Charlie Miranda

6:30:21PM Yes.

Guido Maniscalco

6:30:23PM Yes.

Lynn Hurtak

6:30:24PM Yes.

Alan Clendenin

6:30:25PM Yes.

The clerk

6:30:26PM The motion carried unanimously to deny.

Alan Clendenin

6:30:30PM Thank you. Item number 4. We'll let the room clear for a minute. If you guys could quietly leave. As soon as it quiets down, we'll start with the next hearing.

Lynn Hurtak

6:31:19PM If you all could take your conversations outside.

Alan Clendenin

6:31:21PM Thank you, thank you, thank you. In the back -- oh! [ sounding gavel ] out. I think there is a tiktok of me saying that. Get out. [ laughter ]

Luis Viera

6:31:42PM Careful, careful.

Bill Carlson

6:31:46PM If you leave for naples at midnight, it will only take you three hours instead of five.

Alan Clendenin

6:31:53PM Thank you, guys. Good night, good night. Item 4. Staff. This is ta/cpa 2608, 4707 East Hendry Avenue. This amendment is privately initiated small scale and approximately .71 acres. The request is to go from residential 10 future land use designation to residential 35. The subject site is located within the university Planning area as well as the northeast community neighborhood. This is an aerial of the subject site with the -- with the subject site outlined in yellow. Predominantly single-family detached with scattered public, quasi-public uses to the north, south and west. Directly to the south is developing multifamily. To the east is a mixture of commercial and industrial uses along north 50th street. Further to the south, commercial uses exist along East Hillsborough Avenue. Starting with our site photos, this is looking south at the subject site from north 48th street. This is looking north along north 48th street with the subject site behind the camera. This is looking at the single-family home to the east of the subject site. The subject site is to the right-hand side. This is looking at the single-family home to the north of the subject site with the subject site behind the camera again. This is looking at developing multifamily directly south of the subject site. And this is looking west down unimproved east Henry Avenue. This is the adopted future land use map. The subject site is shown outlined in black under the current residential 10 future land use category. The subject site is located directly north and east of the r 35 future land use designation through adopted ta/cpa 21-02. Further south and west of the site is the r-10 designation. Additionally to the south and east along 50th street and East Hillsborough Avenue exists the community commercial 35 designation. To the north is the jurisdictional boundary between the City of Tampa and unincorporated Hillsborough county. Beyond this exists the unincorporated county residential 6 future land use designation. This is the proposed future land use map showing the subject site under the proposed r-35 designation. Under the adopted flu of residential 10, the site may be considered for seven dwelling units. The site could be considered for 10,836 square feet of commercial uses subject to locational criteria. Under the proposed r-35 designation, the site may be considered for 24 residential development units and 18,576 square feet of commercial uses also subject to locational criteria. Proposed r-35 designation would result in an increase of residential density and commercial intensity and would allow for multifamily uses. Any nonresidential uses would also be subject to locational criteria which is expanded under the r 35 designation. The application was sent to our partner agencies and there were no objections to the request. The City of Tampa Planning department noted that the potential need for infrastructure improvements to surrounding access roads. Staff reviewed all policies of the comprehensive plan and found a number of policies related to the amendment, including policy related to neighborhood preservation and the existing development pattern. The proposed amendment is recommended to be found consistent with the policies and objectives of the comprehensive plan, including multifamily development policies as the site would be eligible for multifamily development under the proposed r-35 designation and additionally is directly north of existing r-35, currently developing multifamily. Additionally, the amendment was found consistent with the policies encouraging adequate housing supply and infill development as the proposed r-35 has the potential to increase density on a currently vacant parcel. The Planning Commission recommends that the proposed map amendment be found consistent with the Tampa Comprehensive Plan. This concludes my presentation. I'm available for any questions.

6:36:17PM Council have any questions? Hearing none, just fyi, Councilwoman Hurtak is taking a little break. She is back listening. She is listening to the hearing but resting a little bit. It says on our agenda this is public, but this is privately initiated, correct?

Meaghan McCarthy

6:36:31PM Yes, privately initiated. That was clerical error.

Alan Clendenin

6:36:35PM There is an applicant? Very good. Cory Williams representing the owner at 4707 east henry. Again, as Ms. McCarthy Mentioned, we're looking to have the property rezoned to r-35 designation as it is consistent with the development just south of our property at 4707.

6:36:58PM Council have any questions of the applicant? Hearing none, is there anybody in the public that wishes to speak to this item? Motion to close from Councilman Miranda. Second from Councilwoman Young. All in favor aye. Opposed? Ayes have it. Councilman Carlson, would you like to read this one, please?

Bill Carlson

6:37:15PM Motion for number four, file ta/cpa 26-08, ordinance being presented for first reading consideration, an ordinance amending the Tampa Comprehensive Plan, future land use element, future land use map for the property located at 4707 East Henry Avenue, from residential 10, r-10, to residential 35, r-35, providing for repeal of all ordinances in conflict, providing for severability, providing an effective date.

Alan Clendenin

6:37:43PM Motion from Councilman Carlson. Second from Councilman Maniscalco. Clerk, would you please call the roll?

Luis Viera

6:37:48PM Yes.

Bill Carlson

6:37:50PM Yes.

Charlie Miranda

6:37:51PM Yes.

Guido Maniscalco

6:37:52PM Yes.

Lynn Hurtak

6:37:53PM Yes.

Naya Young

6:37:55PM Yes.

Alan Clendenin

6:37:55PM Yes.

The clerk

6:37:57PM Motion carried unanimously. I have to do second reading. Second reading and adoption will be held on October 15, 2026 At 10 a.m., located at old city hall, 315 East Kennedy Boulevard, third floor, Tampa, Florida, 33602.

Alan Clendenin

6:38:17PM Let's keep this on a roll. Item 5, fast and quick.

Quinn Steele

6:38:24PM Quinn Steele, Planning Commission staff. I should have a presentation. This is ta/cpa 26-01, which is a map amendment for 1605 North Waters Court. The request before you is privately initiated in small scale covering approximately 3.39 acres. The request is to change future land use designation from community mixed use 35 to urban mixed use 60. Here is a general location map. Subject site located within the central Tampa Planning district, central park urban village, the Historic Ybor neighborhood, the Ybor City local historic district and central park CRA. Here is an aerial photo of the site which is outlined in yellow. I did want to mention that there has been a lot of recent development in the surrounding area, particularly within gasworx. So this aerial may not fully reflect the current conditions around the site. This site fronts east 7th avenue, which is a major commercial corridor in Ybor City and is located about 230 feet of north East Nebraska Avenue which is a designated transit emphasis corridor. Nebraska Avenue also marks the boundary of the CB periphery, west of Nebraska and south of east 3rd avenue allows density and intensity bonuses of up to 100% above the maximum permitted under the underlying future land use designation. The red dashed line shown represents the boundary for the Ybor City local historic district to the east. The surrounding area is a mixture of uses with multifamily commercial and institutional uses. Immediately to the south are booker t. Washington elementary and Robert w. Saunders library. To the west is a church and drive-through restaurant with GTE building further west and encore development just south of that. The la union apartments a part of the gasworx development are located to the southeast, with a Channel District further beyond the frame. This is looking directly at the subject site along South Henderson Avenue. Looking on east East Scott Street, east of the subject site, the la union apartments. Looking south of the site along East Estelle Street towards the elementary school. Looking along east West Henderson Avenue west of the subject site. Looking across north West Nebraska Avenue towards downtown. This map shows the adopted future land use as community mix use 35, allowing medium density residential and commercial uses at 35 dwelling units per acre or 2.0 f.a.r. Which surrounds the site on all sides. To the east along east 7th avenue is UMU 60. Southeast are additional UMU 60 and rmu 100 parcels associated with the gasworx development. To the of north West Nebraska Avenue includes UMU 60 and rmu 100. Further south is recreation open space which is the Tampa park plaza and further north is r-20. This map shows the proposed future land use as UMU 60 which would allow a high density and intensity mixed use development pattern up to 60 dwelling units per acre or 3.25 f.a.r. This amendment would increase the maximum density from 118 to 203 dwelling units in the allowable intensity from just over 295,000 square feet to just over 479,000 square feet of residential or nonresidential uses. This amendment would introduce the potential for CI uses, commercial intensive uses and increase the allowable density and intensity on the site. We sent this amendment out for agency review and did not receive any objections, although the School Board noted that Washington elementary and Blake High School are projected to exceed capacity. In considering this amendment, staff reviewed compatibility with the Ybor City local historic district. Any future development would be subject to design standards and review by the Barrio Latino Commission. This process ensures new development is compatible with the historic character and scale of the surrounding area. This plan amendment went before the BLC on July 28, 2026, and was recommended for consistency. Planning Commission finds the request supports a compact city form by directing growth to the central park urban village, an area intended to accommodate higher density mixed use development. The site is also within a CRA and is currently underutilized. Redevelopment would support reinvestment and more efficient use of land and infrastructure. In addition, site in close proximity to transit and multimodal infrastructure including transit emphasis corridor, TECO streetcar, HART bus service and Tampa union station which supports higher density and intensity development in this location. The request also supports policies related to ensuring an adequate supply of housing. This amendment would provide additional opportunities for residential development in an area identified for growth, helping to accommodate the city's projected growth in population. Planning Commission recommends that the proposed map amendment be found consistent with the goals, objectives, and policies of the Tampa Comprehensive Plan, and I'm available for any questions.

Alan Clendenin

6:43:21PM Council have any questions? Hearing none, applicant. That was a great presentation. We are going to give a very condensed presentation because we have support of staff, obviously, BLC, as well as the Planning Commission. And our client has done a wonderful job of going out and introducing themselves to all the property owners, stakeholders and heard nothing but positives. Meaghan smith from my office is going to show just a few brief slides and ricky de camps is the developer would like to say a few words as well. With that, we're happy to present as much as you would like but didn't want to overdo it, but here for any comments or questions you might have.

6:44:02PM Not overdoing it is the tone of the night. Old-school with the elmo, because the cord has gone missing. Quickly wanted to touch back through. This is really the nucleus of Seminole Heights, Ybor City, downtown Tampa and the Channel District, which we feel helps make it appropriate and compatible with the development that we're proposing. Kind of zooming into the site. 1605 north waters, located in the ybor historic district. Less than 250 feet from the cdb periphery line. Transportation-wise, we have the TECO line streetcar, HART route nine, collector road and transit emphasis corridor. Again, we feel like that supports a compatible implementation of the UMU 60 at this site. With that hand it over to ricky de camps with the development team. Ricky de camps. I represent the developer and the applicant, Tampa park apartments. Just wanted to say, look, when we looked at this piece of property, one of the things we wanted to do is continue the growth in what's happening in ybor. Primarily as we've been meeting with all the local businesses and landowners, the first thing that we hear is from the business owners is we want more density in this area, in this corridor. Specifically because it's just going to help the businesses there. As we were analyzing the site, Tampa park apartments came to us, we're the right buyer for the site and very interested in increasing that density in order for us to develop our project that's needed. Here to answer any questions. Want to keep it as brief as possible. But happy to answer any questions you may have.

6:45:46PM Council have any questions? Hearing none, anybody in the public that wishes to speak to the item. I have a motion to close from Councilman Miranda. Second from Councilman Maniscalco. All those in favor say aye. Opposed? Ayes have it. Councilwoman Young, would you mind reading this one? Number 5.

Naya Young

6:46:01PM File number ta/cpa 26-01, ordinance being presented for first reading consideration, an ordinance amending the Tampa Comprehensive Plan, future land use element, future land use map, for the property located at an ordinance amending the Tampa Comprehensive Plan, future land use element, future land use map, for the property located at 1605 North Waters Court, from community mixed use 35 cmu-35, to urban mixed use 60, UMU 60, providing for repeal of all ordinances in conflict, providing for severability, providing an effective date.

Alan Clendenin

6:46:42PM I think we had typos in there. I have a motion and a second. Clerk, would you please call the roll?

Lynn Hurtak

6:46:49PM I have a comment. I was watching from back there. So my comment is, when people talk about transportation options, there is a giant green sign that's part of it right there. Please don't forget to include the double protected bike lane that is also part of transportation for both Planning Commission and our applicant. Thank you.

Alan Clendenin

6:47:10PM Okay. I have a motion and second. Clerk, call the roll, please.

Bill Carlson

6:47:13PM Yes.

Charlie Miranda

6:47:16PM Yes.

Guido Maniscalco

6:47:17PM Yes.

Lynn Hurtak

6:47:17PM Yes.

Naya Young

6:47:18PM Yes.

Luis Viera

6:47:20PM Yes.

Alan Clendenin

6:47:22PM Yes.

The clerk

6:47:23PM Motion carried unanimously. Second reading and adoption will be held on October 15, 2026 At 10 a.m. at old city hall, located at 315 East Kennedy Boulevard, third floor, Tampa, Florida, 33602.

Alan Clendenin

6:47:38PM Good night, guys. Okay. The rest of the evening is quasi-judicial. It will require you to be sworn in. If you are here to speak or testify on behalf of any of the rest of the hearings, please stand, raise your right hand and be sworn in by our clerk. [Oath administered] very good. Item number 8, please. Short and to the point is always on order tonight. Agenda item number 8 is ab 2-26-10, a special use 2 request for the property located at 6203 North Florida Avenue. Request is for alcoholic beverage sales with small venue classification for beer, wine and liquor, consumption on premises and package sales consumption off premises. This is the aerial map of the site. The property is zoned Seminole Heights commercial intensive, sh-ci. The property is located at the northeast corner of North Florida Avenue and West Hanna Avenue. A few blocks west of the interstate 275. This is located within the central Tampa Planning district, Seminole Heights urban village and along the mixed use corridor. This is the site plan provided by the applicant, a blown-up version of it. This is west hanna here, and this is North Florida Avenue here. The site consists of existing single story building currently operating as jug and bottle department. Establishment operates as a restaurant and retail uses. Currently has an alcoholic beverage approval for beer and wine for consumption on premises and package sales. This request will add the ability for the operator to sell liquor as well. There is no increases to the footprint that has been formerly approved. This is basically them adding the liquor. Customer access is along West Hanna Avenue here. And they provided four parking spaces, and that was previously approved with the current approval for alcohol sales. I have some quick photos to show. This is the front elevation. This is west hanna and this is a view from North Florida Avenue. This is the rear. It gives you an idea about the parking. This is another view of the alley. This is looking on west East Hanna Avenue. The property is right behind us. This is looking west on hanna, and this is facing south from the site, a kwik stop supermarket that also sells alcoholic beverages. This is why the applicant needed a waiver from other alcoholic beverage sales locations. The findings, development review and compliance staff reviewed the application and found it to be inconsistent due to that waiver with the applicable City of Tampa land development regulations. Minor site plan modifications will be required between first and second reading should council move to approve. I'm available for any questions.

6:51:14PM Thank you. Any questions? Hearing none, applicant? Brice pinson with halff associates, 1000 North Ashley Drive. Going to make this pretty quick. But I do have two letters in support to submit that didn't make it into the record. Just some background on jug and bottle, it's been operating since 2015. It has about 1800 square feet indoors and outdoor seating area. Jug and bottle carries some craft beer, wine, and option specialty products. And a lot of Tampa Bay local products and breweries are featured there. They also have really great ramen if you've never been. I recommend. In 2015, they were approved for an alcoholic beverage permit for retail sales off-premises consumption only. In 2021, they came back and got approved for consumption on premises, and now today we're asking to add liquor to that. The site plan and waiver request haven't changed since the last proposal. To go over the waiver request again, the first one is to other alcoholic beverage permits just because there is a kwik stop next door which sales beer and wine for sale off-premises. The other waiver request, which was also approved last time, is just for the parking. Again, there are four car parking spaces and then a bike rack which supplements the other space. And that was approved also with the last application and transportation found it consistent. That's all I have unless you have any questions.

6:53:16PM Council have any questions? Hearing none, anybody in the public wishing to speak to the item. Motion to close from Miranda, second by Maniscalco. All those in favor of closing say aye. Opposed? Ayes have it.

Lynn Hurtak

6:53:29PM File ab 2-26-10, ordinance being presented for first reading consideration, an ordinance approving a special use permit su-2, for alcoholic beverage sales, small venue, beer, wine and liquor, consumption on premises and package sales/off-premises consumption and making lawful the sale of beverages regardless of alcoholic content -- beer, wine and liquor -- on that certain lot, plot or tract of land located at 6203 North Florida Avenue, Tampa, Florida, as more particularly described in section 3, providing that all ordinances or SMARTs of ordinances in conflict are repealed, repealing ordinance number 2021-69; providing an effective date.

Alan Clendenin

6:54:10PM Motion from Councilwoman Hurtak. Second from Councilman Maniscalco. Clerk, call the roll.

Charlie Miranda

6:54:15PM Yes.

Guido Maniscalco

6:54:16PM Yes.

Lynn Hurtak

6:54:17PM Yes.

Naya Young

6:54:17PM Yes.

Luis Viera

6:54:18PM Yes.

Bill Carlson

6:54:20PM Yes.

Alan Clendenin

6:54:21PM Yes.

The clerk

6:54:22PM Motion carried unanimously. Second reading and adoption will be held on October 15, 2026 At 10 a.m. at old city hall, located at 315 East Kennedy Boulevard, third floor, Tampa, Florida, 33602.

Alan Clendenin

6:54:37PM Councilwoman Hurtak.

Lynn Hurtak

6:54:39PM This is a neighborhood establishment that is well loved. I will say that when we moved into our house, which is two blocks away, it was the first place we stopped.

Alan Clendenin

6:54:50PM Been there. Next, let's go real quick.

Leo Debardeleben

6:54:54PM Leo Debardeleben, Development Coordination. Agenda item 9 is ab 2-26-16. This is a special use 2 request for the property located at 5804 East Columbus Drive. The request is for alcoholic beverage sales with a small venue classification for beer, wine and liquor, consumption on premises and package sales off-premises consumption. This is the aerial map that you're looking at. The subject site is outlined in red. You will notice that this is along the northern border of Tampa. This site is also part of the building exists in the county as well. This request is primarily only for a portion of the building that is in the city. This is along the mixed use corridor. There is a mixture of commercial intensive and some neighborhood uses in the area. This is the site plan that was provided by the applicant. The site consists of existing single story building, currently operating as a catering service. The applicant is requesting approval to establish an alcoholic beverage sales permit for a portion of the building that will be used as a place of assembly on limited basis. Approval of this request would allow the sale of beer, wine and liquor for consumption on premises as well as package sales for off-site premises consumption. Customer access is provided with three different areas off of -- well, two locations off of east columbus and off of north 58th street. I would like to bring attention to the boundary where the county is and the portion of the building that is proposed to be used for those places of assembly. Just the shaded areas here. All together, it's 5,630 square feet, and it's all indoors. This is the front elevation off of Columbus Drive. This is a view of the parking lot and the building. This is facing south on east columbus. This is directly across the street from the site. This is facing north on north 58th street and columbus. This is facing south from that same intersection. Development review and compliance staff have reviewed the application and find the request inconsistent with the applicable City of Tampa land development regulations due to the requested waivers. Minor site plan modifications are required between first and second reading. If council should move to approve.

Alan Clendenin

6:57:37PM Councilwoman Hurtak.

Lynn Hurtak

6:57:37PM What are the waivers that you oppose?

Leo Debardeleben

6:57:42PM There is a waiver to reduce the required distance separation from other alcoholic beverage sales locations. That's from a thousand feet to 482 feet. And then there is a waiver for residential uses that boundary is also a thousand feet to 256 feet. There's also a waiver for parking, and they are asking for a waiver from providing off-street parking for 127 spaces to 45 spaces. That's a 65% reduction.

Alan Clendenin

6:58:16PM Is there an applicant? Start with your name, please. My name is Amanda, representing the applicant today. This is a puff and stuff catering shop. They are already licensed with 13 ct catering alcoholic beverage license which allows them to go off-site to provide beer, wine and liquor for use at events and catering purposes. This license classification that they are requesting is 4 cop quota license. It would allow the establishment itself to be licensed to sell beer, wine and liquor. They desire to have very small limited events on the premises, which is why we're adding the assembly use. This would be for networking purposes or for special invite only, little events. They do not anticipate them to be big events at all. And in order to be able to hold the events we need the appropriate liquor license classification to be able to have those. I am here for any further questions. I will not overdo my presentation. Thank you very much.

6:59:23PM Council have any other questions? Hearing none, anybody in the public wishing to speak to this item? Motion to close from Councilman Miranda. Have any questions about the business operations specifically.

6:59:35PM I think we're good. Motion to close from Councilman Miranda. Second from Maniscalco. All in favor aye. Opposed? Ayes have it. Councilman Maniscalco, would you read item 9, please?

Guido Maniscalco

6:59:44PM Thank you very much, Mr. Chairman. Ordinance being presented for first reading consideration, an ordinance approving a special use permit su-2 for alcoholic beverage sales, small venue, beer, wine and liquor, consumption on premises and package sales/off-premises consumption and making lawful the sale of beverages regardless of alcoholic content, beer, wine and liquor, on that certain lot, plot or tract of land located at 5804 East Columbus Drive, Tampa, Florida as more particularly described in section 2, providing that all ordinances or parts of ordinances in conflict are repealed, providing an effective date.

Alan Clendenin

7:00:14PM Motion from Councilman Maniscalco. A second from Councilman Miranda. Clerk, please call the roll.

Lynn Hurtak

7:00:22PM Yes.

Naya Young

7:00:23PM Yes.

Luis Viera

7:00:24PM Yes.

Bill Carlson

7:00:25PM Yes.

Charlie Miranda

7:00:26PM Here. Yes. [ laughter ]

Guido Maniscalco

7:00:32PM Yes.

Alan Clendenin

7:00:33PM Here. [ laughter ]

The clerk

7:00:40PM Motion carried unanimously. Second reading and adoption will be held on October 15, 2026 At 10 a.m. at old city hall, located at 315 East Kennedy Boulevard, third floor, Tampa, Florida, 33602.

Alan Clendenin

7:00:59PM I previously announced I was going to leave at 7, since we're clipping along, I'll try to stick with you guys. Let's go. Item 10, quick.

Leo Debardeleben

7:01:08PM Leo Debardeleben again, Development Coordination. Agenda item 10 is ab 2-26-17, special use 2 request for property located at 1601 through 1607 North Franklin Street. Request is for alcohol beverage sales with small venue classification, beer, wine and liquor, consumption on premises only. This is the aerial map of the site. It's outlined here in red. The property is zoned commercial intensive and located at the northeast corner of North Franklin Street and East Estelle Street. Located in the central Tampa Planning district and Tampa Heights urban village. This is the site plan provided by the applicant. So, this is North Franklin Street and east estelle. This is a building -- the building here, two story building that this is one of the tenants inside of that building. The subject property currently accommodates various commercial uses. The applicant is requesting approval for alcoholic beverage sales with small venue classification for beer, wine and liquor, consumption on premises only. Customer access is provided along the entrance along North Franklin Street and there are no outdoor alcohol beverage sales or consumption areas proposes. Parking is not required because this property is within the Tampa Heights overlay district. And sites fronting Franklin Street with less than 20,000 square feet of gross floor area are exempt from minimum off-street parking. Some photos of the site. This is the front elevation. This is facing east on the corner of franklin and estelle. This is facing on north North Franklin Street. Facing south. The subject site is behind us on the left. This is the south elevation from North Franklin And Estelle Street. And this is facing west. This directly across the street. There is parking that is provided on the site -- well, off the site, but there is parking available in that vicinity. This is facing northeast on North Franklin Street, so the property is up here. I'm sorry, it's right to the right. Development review and compliance staff have reviewed the application and find the request inconsistent with the applicable City of Tampa land development regulations due to the requested waiver. The waivers, to require the required distance separation from other alcoholic beverage sales location, establishments from 250 feet to 0 feet. Minor site plan modifications are required between first and second reading should council move to approve. I'm available for questions.

Guido Maniscalco

7:04:00PM So the closest alcoholic beverage establishment is it a brewery or what is it?

Leo Debardeleben

7:04:08PM Flower crown kombucha.

Guido Maniscalco

7:04:13PM They came before us, I don't know, five years ago or something.

Leo Debardeleben

7:04:16PM 2021.

Alan Clendenin

7:04:17PM Any other questions? Hearing none, applicant? Jim porter with akerman, 401 East Jackson Street. I'm here for the applicant. I'm excited about the project. I think it's a good location for this. There are no residents anywhere nearby. The area is continuing to evolve. The building is actually one of the most historic buildings in Tampa. The auto dealership building and in pristine condition. The applicant is ty Rodriguez, one of the founders of rooster and the till and alter ego and before that mise en place. We're not aware of any opposition. We respectfully request your approval.

7:04:59PM Any questions? Hearing none. Anybody in the public wishing to speak to the item? Motion to close from Hurtak and second from Maniscalco. All in favor, aye. Opposed? Ayes have it. Councilman Miranda, would you please read item 10.

Charlie Miranda

7:05:10PM Item 10, file ab 2-26-17, ordinance being presented for first reading consideration, an ordinance approving a special use permit SU 2 for alcoholic beverage sales, small venue, beer, wine and liquor, consumption on premises only, and making lawful the sale of beverages regardless of alcoholic content, beer, wine and liquor, on that certain lot, plot or tract of land located at 1601 North Franklin Street, suite 1607, Tampa, Florida, as more particularly described in section 3, providing that all ordinances or parts of ordinances in conflict are repealed, providing ordinance number 21-18, providing an effective date.

Alan Clendenin

7:05:52PM Repealing ordinance number 2021-81. Motion from Councilman Miranda. Second from Councilman Maniscalco.

Guido Maniscalco

7:06:03PM Yes.

Lynn Hurtak

7:06:05PM Yes.

Naya Young

7:06:06PM Yes.

Luis Viera

7:06:07PM Yes.

Bill Carlson

7:06:08PM Yes.

Charlie Miranda

7:06:10PM Yes.

Alan Clendenin

7:06:11PM Yes.

The clerk

7:06:12PM The motion carried unanimously. Second reading and adoption will be held on October 15, 2026 At 10 a.m. at old city hall located at 315 East Kennedy Boulevard, third floor, Tampa, Florida, 33602.

Alan Clendenin

7:06:27PM Thank you very much. Item number 11. Let's go.

Leo Debardeleben

7:06:32PM Leo Debardeleben, Development Coordination. Agenda item 11 is ab 2-26-19. This is a special use 2 request for the property located at 6207 South Dale Mabry Highway. The request is for alcoholic beverage sales with a small venue classification for beer, wine and liquor, consumption on premises only. This is the aerial map of the site. This is located along south dale mabry, a little bit north of the base. Outlined here in red. This is surrounded by mostly residential uses and along a mixed use corridor. The site plan provided by the applicant, this is south dale mabry here. The subject site consists of existing single story building currently occupied by the Tampa green beret association team house and operates as a place of assembly. The applicant is requesting approval for alcoholic beverage sales with small venue classification for beer, wine and liquor for on consumption premises only. Access is provided along South Dale Mabry Highway. The parking lot is north of the building. There is a requirement of 36 off-street parking spaces. This site, the staff report stated that it provided 42 with 40 standard spaces and two ADA spaces. Actually 43 standard spaces and two ADA spaces for total of 45. Spaces, so they are over-parked. Some photos of the site. This is the front elevation. This is a photo of the parking lot. You can see the ADA parking spaces there. This is directly across the street. This is the east elevation. Development review and compliance staff have reviewed the application and find the request inconsistent with the City of Tampa land development regulations due to the requested waiver for the required distance separation from residential uses from 250 feet to 10 feet. Minor site plan modifications are required between first and second reading should council move to approve. I'm available for questions.

Alan Clendenin

7:08:45PM Council have any questions? Hearing none, I'm going to pass the gavel to Councilwoman Hurtak, and I am going to hit the road. You guys have a great evening. I hope the rest of the evening goes as quick --

Lynn Hurtak

7:08:57PM Why would you say that? [Knocking on wood]

7:09:01PM Applicant. Grace yang, 101 East Kennedy Boulevard. It's my pleasure to appear before you tonight to represent tgba INC., which is a nonprofit veterans association. Tgba stands for the Tampa green beret association. As you've heard from Mr. Debardeleben, this request is for the green beret team's house Tampa, which is a single story building, located about half a mile from the entrance of MacDill Air Force Base. We are requesting approval for consumption on premises only, beer, wine and liquor, all the space is indoors and there is a waiver that we need because of the 250-foot separation. I'm available to answer any questions. We respectfully request your approval.

7:09:55PM Does anyone have any questions?

Guido Maniscalco

7:09:57PM The two gentlemen in the green jackets.

7:10:04PM Are you of the Vietnam era or you are too young?

7:10:10PM Thank you very much. It's an honor to have you here.

7:10:20PM Very good. Thank you.

Charlie Miranda

7:10:21PM I like your haircuts.

Bill Carlson

7:10:27PM Is this something that every city has? I hadn't heard of this before. Really cool idea. Do other cities have these? Many team houses there are.

Lynn Hurtak

7:10:46PM Come up to the microphone and state your name.

Bill Carlson

7:10:50PM Also thank you guys for your service. Thank you to all your members. Association. Short answer is no. this is the only one in existence.

Lynn Hurtak

7:11:02PM Wow. Donations by the individual members to build this building. It's been quite a time in coming. I want to thank the council for their consideration. Any questions?

7:11:23PM That is a great question. Thank you, Councilman Carlson for asking that. That's amazing. Wow, that stumped me. So, yes, we're requesting this. The building already exists, and we have multiple officers, veterans, people who are connected to the MacDill Air Force Base community, centcom, special operations, so this is planned to be a place where they can gather and be able to socialize and to have receptions and events for people connected to their community. It will not be open to the general public.

7:12:02PM Any questions? Is there anyone in the public that wishes to speak on this item tonight? I have a motion to close by council member Miranda. Second from council member Maniscalco. All those in favor? Aye. Any opposed? I believe we left off with council member Carlson.

Bill Carlson

7:12:27PM I would like to move number 11, file ab 2-26-19, ordinance being presented for first reading consideration, an ordinance approving a special use permit SU 2 for alcoholic beverage sales, small venue, beer, wine and liquor, consumption on premises only, and making lawful the sale of beverages regardless of alcoholic content, beer, wine and liquor, on that certain lot, plot, or tract of land located at 6207 South Dale Mabry Highway, Tampa, Florida, as more particularly described in section 2, providing that all ordinances or parts of ordinances in conflict are repealed, providing an effective date.

Lynn Hurtak

7:13:03PM Motion from council member Carlson, a second from council member Miranda. Roll call, please.

Naya Young

7:13:10PM Yes.

Luis Viera

7:13:11PM Yes.

Bill Carlson

7:13:12PM Yes.

Charlie Miranda

7:13:13PM Yes.

Guido Maniscalco

7:13:14PM Yes.

Lynn Hurtak

7:13:16PM Yes.

The clerk

7:13:17PM Motion carried with Clendenin absent at vote. Second reading and adoption will be held on October 15, 2026 At 10 a.m. at old city hall located at 315 East Kennedy Boulevard, third floor, Tampa, Florida, 33602.

Lynn Hurtak

7:13:34PM Okay. Thank you so much. Our final file of the night.

Leo Debardeleben

7:13:42PM Leo Debardeleben with Development Coordination. Agenda item 12 is ab 2-26-20, a special use 2 request for the property located at 210 East Fowler Avenue. The request is for alcoholic beverage sales with a restaurant classification for beer, wine and liquor, consumption on premises only. On the overhead is aerial map of the site. The site is also bisected with the county, so a major portion of the building is in the city. Some of it is also in the county. This request only applies to the portion of the building that is -- I'll show you that when I look at the site plan. It only involves the location that's inside of the city. The property is zoned commercial intensive. It is located on the north side of East Fowler Avenue between interstate and 275 North Florida Avenue. The property is located within the central Tampa Planning district and along a mixed use corridor. This is the site plan provided by the applicant. The site consists of an existing hotel. This is the value lodge with a separately operated restaurant proposed within the building, which is hatched here in -- with the hatching. Applicant is requesting approval for alcoholic beverage sales with a restaurant classification for beer, wine and liquor, consumption on premises only. Customer access is provided through the primary entrance along Fowler Avenue and surface parking is shared with the hotel around the perimeter of the building. There are no outdoor alcoholic beverage sales or consumption areas proposed. The alcoholic beverage sales area is 4,777 square feet, all located indoors. This site does require 203 parking spaces and provides 186 spaces. For that development review and compliance staff have reviewed the application and find the request inconsistent with the applicable City of Tampa land development regulations due to the requested waiver for reduced parking. I skipped over showing you some photos. Let me back track a little bit. This is the front elevation, the existing value lot currently under renovation. But this portion of the building is where that proposed restaurant will be. This is facing the subject site from the adjacent property to the east. It's currently being used as overflow for the car dealerships that are across the street. This is facing east. You can see interstate 275, and our site is on the left. This is just facing southeast. The subject is behind the camera. This is facing west on east fowler. Minor site plan modifications are required between first and second reading should council move to approve. I'm available for any questions.

Lynn Hurtak

7:16:34PM Thank you so much. Any questions? Applicant? My name is terry haley. I reside at 108 Clark Tower Drive in Brandon. I represent the applicant. Just to talk quickly, I know we're trying to speed this up. Modifications are no problem. Just some of the verbiage. The waiver we are requesting actually there's two notes to be done. One is with the distance of residential and separating the two properties, there is most cases an eight-foot concrete wall. In some cases six. Then you also have both natural shrub and landscape stuff as well creating a buffer between the two. It has operated as a hotel with an eatery since 1972. It was previously zoned with a 4 cop back in 2006 but lost their zoning because it shut down and said there were no sales or anything. We're asking to rekindle that. Also, if you want to talk about the shortage of distance, it's about 171 -- excuse me, opposite of that. It is 171 from the corner of the building. Survey showed, but actually if you go ahead and go to the only entrance of the building, it adds to it another 200 or so feet. Actually, another 38 feet. So we're just shy of it by about 20 feet or so. And then mentioned about the parking. Right now at 8% deficit. It requires 203 spaces. There's only 186. But based on the formulas, you would be talking 100% occupancy of all the rooms, everyone having a car, which everyone doesn't, and it would also be 100% of occupancy of the restaurant at one time. In order to overflow this. Let's see. I think that's all I've got to offer. I can answer more. Like I say, this would rarely happen that both my applicant and the hotel would like to have the problem of 100% occupancy in both places at one time. I'll answer any questions. Other than that we'd like to get started in business here. Another thing, just to let you know, it's been quite the aggravation because prior to my client talking with anyone, he's doing this 4 cop that requires food sales, well, as luck would have it, he created his kitchens in the county, because dining room and drink areas in the city, he has to support it with food sales, but the food is coming from the county. So it's been a bear. If you could help us out. This guy has been paying rent for months already.

7:19:51PM Thank you so much. Any questions? Is there anybody in the public wishing to speak to this item? I have a motion to close from Councilman Miranda and second from Councilman Maniscalco. All in favor? Aye. Okay. Councilwoman Young, would you be willing to read this?

Naya Young

7:20:12PM File number ab 2-26-20, ordinance being presented for first reading consideration. An ordinance approving a special use permit su-2 for alcoholic beverage sales, restaurant, beer, wine and liquor, consumption on premises only and making lawful the sale of beverages regardless of alcoholic content, beer, wine and liquor, on that certain lot, plot or tract of land located at 210 East Fowler Avenue, Tampa, Florida, and more particularly described in section 2, providing that all ordinances or parts of ordinances in conflict are repealed, providing an effective date.

Lynn Hurtak

7:20:51PM Okay. I have a motion from Councilwoman Young and I have a second from Councilman Maniscalco. Roll call.

Bill Carlson

7:20:58PM Yes.

Charlie Miranda

7:20:58PM Yes.

Guido Maniscalco

7:20:59PM Yes.

Luis Viera

7:21:00PM Yes.

Naya Young

7:21:03PM Yes.

Lynn Hurtak

7:21:04PM Yes.

The clerk

7:21:05PM Motion carried with Clendenin absent at vote. Second reading and adoption will be held on October 15, 2026, At 10 a.m. at old city hall located at 315 East Kennedy Boulevard, third floor, Tampa, Florida, 33602.

Lynn Hurtak

7:21:23PM Okay. Thank you so much. New business, council member Carlson. Councilwoman Young? Councilman Viera?

Luis Viera

7:21:33PM Yes, ma'am, thank you. I have a couple of quick things, if I may. I'm reading here. I can send this to our clerk.

Lynn Hurtak

7:21:43PM Actually, the clerk was given a written copy. For just one of them.

Luis Viera

7:21:48PM Motion to remove -- so this is because station 24 is beginning and everything, motion to remove the in-person status update on station 24 scheduled for October 1st and to replace the current monthly written reports and quarterly in-person reports with in-person construction updates beginning in March of the first week of March of 2027. And then I'll leave it to whoever takes my place or anybody else to see the duration of it based upon the construction status, just so that TFR doesn't have to do that all the time, if council is amenable.

Lynn Hurtak

7:22:32PM Okay. I have a motion from Councilman Viera. I have a second from Councilman Maniscalco. All those in favor? Aye. Any opposed?

Guido Maniscalco

7:22:40PM They broke ground already on station 24 this week. It's all on schedule.

Lynn Hurtak

7:22:46PM Anything else?

Luis Viera

7:22:48PM If I may, you all should have gotten a letter regarding the renaming of fire station one or a street for Franz Warner junior and isaac royal. I would motion for that to come back with council's consent on November 19. I'll be out, but I'm sure it will get support on council and all that good stuff. If staff needs more time, that's great. But that would be my motion.

Lynn Hurtak

7:23:21PM Can you repeat your motion?

Luis Viera

7:23:22PM Yes, ma'am. A motion for a report from staff on the renaming of either fire station one or a street renaming near fire station one for Franz Warner senior and isaac royal after their tragic murder 45 years ago on November 19. That is my motion.

Martin Shelby

7:23:48PM Martin Shelby, City Council attorney. Is this a written report, councilman?

Luis Viera

7:23:53PM No.

Martin Shelby

7:23:54PM Then how many -- I'd have to take out the calendar. How many staff reports do we have on November 19.

Lynn Hurtak

7:24:00PM Right now, we have one.

Martin Shelby

7:24:01PM This would be the last one because the chair has made the determination, first of all, council is beginning at 11 a.m. that day on November 19. Okay. That's fine. I want to be clear on that. Close out.

Luis Viera

7:24:14PM That's my motion. Thank you.

Guido Maniscalco

7:24:18PM I'll second that. If any council member is interested, if you go to station one downtown, you can actually still see the bullet holes from that day in the front door. Bill wade who is very active, retired but very active with the firefighter museum gave me the tour and everything. Great motion, council member Viera. Happy to support it.

Luis Viera

7:24:41PM Yes, sir. Thank you, council.

Lynn Hurtak

7:24:43PM I have a motion from Councilman Viera. A second from Councilman Maniscalco. All those in favor? Aye.

Luis Viera

7:24:50PM That's it. Thank you, madam chair. Thank you, council.

Lynn Hurtak

7:24:53PM Yes, Councilman Maniscalco.

Guido Maniscalco

7:24:54PM First, tomorrow is September 25th, "9 to 5." Unofficially dolly parton day. We remember her. I have a motion on more serious stuff, request by Planning Commission setting an adoption hearing for the City of Tampa FY '27 through FY '31, capital improvement, CIS schedule project update. October 22, 2026 at 5:01 p.m. and direct the Legal Department to provide the city clerk with the form of notice for advertising the public hearing.

Lynn Hurtak

7:25:26PM Motion from Councilman Maniscalco. Second from Councilman Miranda. All in favor? Aye.

Guido Maniscalco

7:25:33PM Request by Planning Commission setting adoption hearing for ta/cpa 26-09 and ta/cpa 26-10 on January 28, 2027 at 5:01 p.m. and direct the Legal Department to provide the city clerk with the form of notice for advertising the public hearing.

Lynn Hurtak

7:25:49PM I have a motion from Councilman Maniscalco. I have a second from Councilman Miranda. All those in favor? Aye. Councilman Miranda? Nothing. I have a motion to receive and file from Councilman Maniscalco. Second from Councilman Miranda. All those in favor? Aye. We are adjourned. [ sounding gavel ] disclaimer: this file represents an unedited version of realtime captioning which should neither be relied upon for complete accuracy nor used as a verbatim transcript. Any person who needs a verbatim transcript of the proceedings may need to hire a court reporter. ▶ meeting video the information contained in these pages represents an unedited version of realtime captioning which should neither be relied upon for complete accuracy nor used as a verbatim transcript. Persons requiring a verbatim transcript may need to hire a court reporter. © - City of Tampa (813) 274-8211